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insanezenmistress:


Do we become too intellectaul, and forget the simplicity of Christ.

Recently, after having found theses 'new revelationary' teachings  i found myself eating up anything i could digest, as fast as it could be served to me.  Isnt that greedy...... oh i see, we all prefere to call it, hunger for the Lord.....see the LORD gets all the attention ...ahem erm, amen.......

    Really? 

    Jesus is pleased to see us gobble up meats, just to be eating?
    I mean , at least your seeking after truth, right?

Recently i have found myself over whelmed with information, and realised i had forgotten what all my studying is FOR.  I forgot it is all about knowing god, not just about him, not just the record of his sayings. But to know HIM.

I realised that the reason why people are so easilly decieved about things of the lord, is because we read so many books, and listen to so much information, and memorize rigid and calculated thought patterns with which to experience this god-thing, in just the right mannnor. Rather then to look into the Bible.

            Isnt this Idolatry....oh i see, we all prefer to call it dilligence and disearnment, to rightly divide the scripture.....yadda yadda yadda....

          *Sigh*

          Wouldn't Jesus wish for more than that? Dont i want to experience his own voice speaking His Word, while i walk, while i pray, while i wash dishes, while i sing, while i wrestle with the kids, while i relax.......

         HOW can this be done! HOW do we life with and for the Lord, and not need to keep our hunger/greed satisfied?

          Humm doesnt this sound like a parable?...A woman at some well.

        IN the olden zen days, a master would speak a very obscure verse.....such as......."When you are hungry, eat. When you are not hungry, dont eat."
       And the proper student would go an ponder that one verse. And not return to the master untill he is satisfied with the answer...and better still he realizes that answer and thanks the master for his lesson.

       We have the MASTER, and he has given us MANY verses to ponder, He is eager to tell us many answers, But like with the zen master you must need zen,you must also need truth, as you need the very air itself. Because HE IS the air you breath. 

       And he gives us many teachers, but test all things, test all your thoughts and voices and add knowledge to a living understanding without intellectaul obsession.....not attachment to strict form and answers but leaning on the voice of truth, Jesus Our Saviour. 

        Test Him, he will not change his truth. When you have learned the Mind of Christ, and have put to the cross acres of mental lands you ought to be able to look into any scripture and see truth brightly. Truth becomes your way of living......you truth , you love, you pray. The Buddha would have called it "you pick up a blade of grass and make a scripture."


Now for fun of the thread, "the faithfull" must figure out the bible verses i have alluded to during the text ( esp the hidden ones); And the readers can give the lessons and questions they have of the Lord and his teaching to them.


please forgive, if you want me to  i will just shut up when i get in a preachy mood.  Its all a part of ........ :P

IZM

Redbird:
Hi IZM,

Ya, the message of Christ is easy.....Love.  God is Love.  It's the love thing that's complicated!
Like who, when, where and how to love.  These are the things we need to know and study.

Peace to you, Lisa

sonofone:
Thank God for the forum that allow us to post and help one another to learn. Thanks to Ray and all the moderators that make this place possible.Insane I am glad to see you on the board. It is apparent to me that your spiritual pilot is lit, and that is a good sign.Seek first to be understood,never sacrifice or risk separation from your brothers,in order to be right. We don't all grow at the same pace. Where you are now I may get there later or maybe not at all.The spirit of Cain is alive and well in all of us.We will kill our brother if we find differences between us. Thank God that we are all accepted,by doing well. Good to see you and great post.

Gregor:
Greetings IZM,

Wow, I was just asking myself the same questions today.

Eccl.1:12,13 NKJV "I, the Preacher, was king over Israel in Jerusalem. And I set my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all that is done under heaven; this grievous task God has given to the sons of man, by which they may be exercised (or afflicted)." He goes on to speak of gnostic pride as "grasping for the wind." In the end Eccl.12:13 "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and  keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man."

Matthew 7:12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

But wait, there's more...1Cor.12:4,5 "Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord." ... vs.29,30,31, "Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way." (LOVE)

And more...Rom.14:4 "Who are you to judge another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand."

This ties in nicely with what was spoken in the thread about Peter walking on water (If you haven't already checked it out, it's a good read). So long as we keep Jesus (our relationship with him) in focus, he will tell us what we should be doing. If the motive of our heart isn't pure, we will sink.

We must ask ourselves, what (or moreso, WHO) are we seeking, checking the motives of the heart and in what God is leading us. It is my goal then to "put on Christ."

insanezenmistress:
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   Gregor, nice veres.......good lesson.....but, i would look into the word Gnosticism, every time i hear it it grates on my nerves, like some one missuses it.  What is gnostisim, it is a study of the knowing of God. It is knowing about your personal relationship with him. And saying yes i know HIM.The bible speaks of God giving us a SPirit that crys Abba ( daddy) Father........

      It seems , we think, bad things baout this nasty word gnostic.we think it mean "wise in our own imagination'.....or some preacher told 'em, gnostics drnak blood and thought they could be one with Christ.

     And , is there something wrong with that theology or somethin?


 You put the jesus in.....you shake the old man out
 You know the Holy Spirit and He turns your soul about.

 Thats that its all about!

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