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just need some input on tragedies
hart4god:
Pilgrim,
that did not sound heartless at all to me. maybe because it is the truth.
and we should be thankful through our tears for what we have- small or big.
I am grateful for what you shared.
judie h.
and Ursula- I had the same thought today about how much I need to trust God and how much I really don't. :(
Deborah-Leigh:
judie h
We are living in times of great apostasy and lawlessness.
Our justice systems have lost control direction and focus and are lead by lies, fabrications, wealth and deception. This is how God has planned it just as it was in the days of Noah. We are assured that the spiritual condition in our societies is going to deteriorate to a point of great dismay before Christ returns.
These levels of evil we are seeing and experiencing are incomprehensible to innocent hearts just as it may have been to Able perhaps as he breathed his last breath looking at his own brother who was his murderer.
Some of us are called to bear witness by direct experience of this inordinate evil that is manifesting throughout our societies. Others have no clue as to what is going on and live in glib sensuality believing that they are alright. We are called to find refuge in Christ from the evil that we are being given knowledge and experience of and His promise that all will be revealed and all will be straightened out in the end with every tear shed and not lost or in vain is a reality.
You say that : God has a plan.....but the plan is killing their children
I know that this is the most logical and easy conclusion to make in such illogical and difficult circumstances and I believe that the infants that died have been released to be raised to live again in a better world and have been relieved of the burden of this one as I comprehend this tragedy of loss and grieving.
As for the baby that is coming into this world, what better parents to have than ones who have already two children to be escorted into the Kingdom of Christ. My own son too has a sibling brother who died before he was born and of course he never met and who also has been blessed and will be raised again in the return of Jesus. We believe this and teach this and it has been a great blessing for us all.
Peace and strength to you
Arcturus :)
DuluthGA:
I am so sorry Judie for all the very tragic circumstances you relayed as well as what appears to be complete incompetence of the Family and Children Services.
Quite actually, I am deeply saddened and somewhat speechless, as you say.
Please know I will keep them and you in my prayers. In consolation I offer:
1Cor 12: 6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
2Cor 5: 18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
Deut 32: 4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
Isaiah 42: 16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, AND NOT FORSAKE THEM.
Eccl 3: 11 He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
1Sam 2: 6 Jehovah putteth to death, and keepeth alive, He bringeth down to Sheol, and bringeth up. [YLT]
Same verse, different translation: The Lord kills and he gives life, he sends down to Sheol, he can bring the dead up again. [NEB]
2Sam 14: 14 For we will surely die and become like water spilled on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again. Yet God does not take away a life; but He devises means, so that His banished ones are not expelled from Him. [NKJV]
Psalm 18: 30 As for God, His way is perfect; the word of Jehovah is purified; He is a shield to all who seek refuge in Him.
Hosea 6: 1 Come, and let us return to the Lord; For He has torn, but He will heal us; He has stricken, but He will bind us up.
Isaiah 41: 10 Fear not, for I am with you; Be not dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with My righteous right hand. [NKJV]
May you be comforted by His grace.
With Christian love,
Janice
LittleBear:
Wonderful and comforting verses Janice,
--- Quote from: Arcturus on September 28, 2007, 06:34:25 PM ---
Some of us are called to bear witness by direct experience of this inordinate evil that is manifesting throughout our societies. Others have no clue as to what is going on and live in glib sensuality believing that they are alright. We are called to find refuge in Christ from the evil that we are being given knowledge and experience of and His promise that all will be revealed and all will be straightened out in the end with every tear shed and not lost or in vain is a reality.
--- End quote ---
This is so true Arcturus,
Love,
Ursula
cjwood:
--- Quote from: LittleBear on September 29, 2007, 01:51:40 PM ---Wonderful and comforting verses Janice,
--- Quote from: Arcturus on September 28, 2007, 06:34:25 PM ---
Some of us are called to bear witness by direct experience of this inordinate evil that is manifesting throughout our societies. Others have no clue as to what is going on and live in glib sensuality believing that they are alright. We are called to find refuge in Christ from the evil that we are being given knowledge and experience of and His promise that all will be revealed and all will be straightened out in the end with every tear shed and not lost or in vain is a reality.
--- End quote ---
This is so true Arcturus,
Love,
Ursula
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once again arcturus has spoken timely words of (His) wisdom. the tragedies are by their most simplest definition, tragic. tragedy always rips our hearts out and makes us cry out trying to understand. tragedy guts us. the Spirit heals us. we have to go to the major band-Aid.
His mercy and lovingkindness in bringing comfort to the hearts effected by the deaths of the innocent ones.
in the love of Christ,
claudia
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