Hi Arcturus,
Good subject to consider. God is the force at work in this world.
Eph 1:11 in whom also we have been chosen to an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him
who works all things according to the counsel of His own will,
To me God is like a invisible conductor, orchestrating His great plan for this creation. Nothing is out of tune with what He wants it to be. He does not need to force anybody to do certain things, because He controls all the elements that are operating around everybody and everything. It is all of God. That we even exist is a hard thing to comtemplate.
I like this analogy that Ray used to explain God.
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So let’s think about this a little bit, who is the Father? In Him we live and breath and have our being. Liken the ocean to the Spirit of God, and liken us to the fish. The fish are 95% water, the ocean is in the fish, and the fish are in the ocean, get it.
A bird has very porous bones, because they have to be very light. It flies in the heavens, it breaths fast, because it needs strength and oxygen. So the air (which is like the Spirit of God, which is what he calls it in the NT, Greek word for spirit is pheuma), the expanse is even called heaven, where the bird flies, and liken the air to the Spirit of God. The bird has air in him and is flying through the air.
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That’s why I gave you these scripture “all is out of God.” God is spirit, God is invisible. Scripture say all that can be seen, was made from things that are not seen. They didn’t come out of nothing, they came out of what is not seen. Who is not seen? God is not seen!
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God is here, not here because we are here, but He was here before we got here and He’ll still be after we leave. Because this desk is here and this desk has it cohesion in Jesus Christ. It is through Jesus Christ that this desk holds together or it would fall apart. It takes energy and power, what is the source of the power, Jesus Christ, which comes from the Father and it’s passed off out of Him. One Father, one God, all and everything is out of Him. GOD IS ALMIGHTY!
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Just thought I would add this to your discussion
mercy, peace and love
Kat