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hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Kat on October 07, 2007, 08:39:19 AM ---
Hi Joe,
This life can really throw us some hard stuff. I hope things are beginning to be worked out in your situation. Your post reminded me of a part of the Nashville conference, I thought I would post that part here.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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Hello Kat,
The beautiful thing is that when our eyes begin to open to His spiritual Truths these tribulations are much more bearable because we know they are necessary for our development and maturity, yes we are Sons and Daughters first but as babes not mature enough to fully receive our inheretence, that maturity comes through learning obedience and living in faith.
I have a great amount of empathy for those who do not yet see this process as being for our benefit, who feel alone and without hope, we know we are blessed by our afflictions where they only see a "strange thing" befalling them.
Thank you for reposting that timely and very relevant article!
--- Quote from: Arcturus on October 07, 2007, 08:51:37 AM ---
I think our Lord sent you that message to encourage you Joe. Just think how that artical began in His eyes. He knows the beginning from the end and knew you would read it at the time you read it and be caused to see that quotation He knew you would post here in the Forum for us!
You are not alone in your suffering.
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Thank you Arcturus,
I believe you are exactly right, the Lord placed that bit of wisdom before me at a very needed time, it is a beautiful feeling when we recognize His influence and guidance in our lives. It was a perfect and relaxing time when I was given this Eureka! moment.
Psa 105:7 He is the LORD our God: his judgments are in all the earth.
Isa 26:9 With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
What a glorious promise!
His Peace to you,
Joe
Harryfeat:
Hello Joe,
Thanks for your post. It is a source of encouragement and strength for us to hold strong in our faith in Him that does all in His ultimate glory. What most don't usually see is how what glorifies Him benefits us. Your post surely goes a long way in helping us over that hurdle.
I continue to hold you and all involved in my prayers.
be blessed
feat
skydreamers:
We have stories of those who were stoned, sawed in two, murdered in cold blood; stories of vagrants wandering the earth in animal skins, homeless, friendless, powerless-- the world didn't deserve them!--making their way as best they could on the cruel edges of the world. Not one of these people, even though their lives of faith were exemplary, got their hands on what was promised. God had a better plan for us: that their faith and our faith would come together to make one completed whole, their lives of faith not complete apart from ours. Do you see what this means--all these pioneers who blazed the way, all these veterans cheering us on? It means we'd better get on with it. Strip down, start running--and never quit! No extra spiritual fat, no parasitic sins.
Keep your eyes on Jesus, who both began and finished this race we're in. Study how he did it. Because he never lost sight of where he was headed--that exhilarating finish in and with God--he could put up with anything along the way: cross, shame, whatever. And now he's there, in the place of honor, right alongside God. When you find yourselves flagging in your faith, go over that story again, item by item, that long litany of hostility he plowed through. That will shoot adrenaline into your souls! In this all-out match against sin, others have suffered far worse than you, to say nothing of what Jesus went through--all that bloodshed!
So don't feel sorry for yourselves. Or have you forgotten how good parents treat children, and that God regards you as his children? My dear child, don't shrug off God's discipline, but don't be crushed by it either. It's the child he loves that he disciplines; the child he embraces, he also corrects. God is educating you; that's why you must never drop out. He's treating you as dear children. This trouble you're in isn't punishment; it's training, the normal experience of children. Only irresponsible parents leave children to fend for themselves. Would you prefer an irresponsible God? We respect our own parents for training and not spoiling us, so why not embrace God's training so we can truly live?
While we were children, our parents did what seemed best to them. But God is doing what is best for us, training us to live God's holy best. At the time, discipline isn't much fun. It always feels like it's going against the grain. Later, of course, it pays off handsomely, for it's the well-trained who find themselves mature in their relationship with God. So don't sit around on your hands! No more dragging your feet! Clear the path for long-distance runners so no one will trip and fall, so no one will step in a hole and sprain an ankle. Help each other out. And run for it!
Hebrews 11:37-12:13 (The Message)
Thank you for a very encouraging thread Joe!
Peace,
Diana
Robin:
God has been teaching me to stay in the minute and not look ahead. The minutes can be hard enough. I remember on one of Ray's audios he said don't look at the future. Today is hard enough. If I think about doing this for the rest of my life I start to panic. If I think about the moment I can get through it.
There was a time when I felt overwhelmingly blessed to see what I see and hear what I hear when most can't see or hear it at all. May we always be thankful that God has given us eyes to see and ears to hear. For years I was asking God to give me his Holy Spirit. I just didn't feel like I had the Holy Spirit. I am beginning to see that this is the Holy Spirit at work in us perfecting holiness in the fear of God. Our suffering is also a blessing. I still kick a lot though. I don't like it. It hurts.
Matthew 3:
11I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
12Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.
Isaiah 55:11
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Romans 6:4-6
4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
1 Peter 4
1Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
2That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
James 1:12
Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
Revelation 2:10
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
Philippians 3:
14I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
Gregor:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on October 07, 2007, 10:43:54 AM ---Hello Kat,
The beautiful thing is that when our eyes begin to open to His spiritual Truths these tribulations are much more bearable because we know they are necessary for our development and maturity, yes we are Sons and Daughters first but as babes not mature enough to fully receive our inheretence, that maturity comes through learning obedience and living in faith.
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Re: Is this judgeing?
« Reply #56 on: Today at 05:59:42 AM »
Hello Alex
Just a few observations.
Babylon teaches that there are saved and born again members of the body of Christ BEFORE the resurrection to life in Christ or judgment at the White Throne. Hence the confusion. Smiley
For me there are no sons or daughters yet except one and that is Christ. For some there is the conception of His Spirit within and the race to finish the test of faith and trial of our fidelity to Christ.
You say : However, i noticed that those who have the SPIRIT OF CHRIST are the sons and daughters of God.
We do not know who is and who isn't elected to sonship and daughter status yet. Only God knows His own. For us we have the Hope to be called sons and daughters but it is not yet that the sons and daughters have been made manifest.
Greetings,
So which is it? Are we sons/daughters or not? Both Joe and Arcturus are "hero members" yet seem to be presenting conflicting statements. Maybe its just me who's confused?? ???What does Ray teach? I'm not trying to create controversy, just trying to clarify. Furthermore, I know that some scriptures appear to contradict, but are really oxymorons. Like the statement, "God is not the author of confusion" yet Gen. 11:7 says "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another's speech." Ambiguous words >:(
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