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sonofone:
So Dennis is the problem with my post is that is was to overbroad or that it was off focus from what bt teaches? I am at this point assuming both.I really need to know because as I said although no one has said so I feel a little out of sync,almost out of place here thanks.
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote from: sonofone on October 11, 2007, 12:12:09 PM ---So Dennis is the problem with my post is that is was to overbroad or that it was off focus from what bt teaches? I am at this point assuming both.I really need to know because as I said although no one has said so I feel a little out of sync,almost out of place here thanks.
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Yes, the question was too general. If you had asked a specific question and simply mentioned Frank Viola then I would not have a problem with it.
But asking the members to simply check out Frank Viola's site is not allowed. We have our reasons, and it's not because we may be proved wrong on some subject. But if we let it go on then things sometimes turn into a free-for-all (we've been there and it's not going to happen again).
And, there are members here who donate and we're not here to promote other sites at their expense.
There are many other forums that have no rules, but we've learned things stay civil here if we enforce certain rules. I don't want new people to come to a forum that's in chaos.
Dennis
sonofone:
Thanks Dennis point well taken.I will hold myself in subjection.Thanks again
indianabob:
Friend Sonofone,
If I may respond to your original question about the content of this forum.
I have been searching the way you seem to be for ten or more years. I have examined many authors and have ended up more confused than enlightened. Yes, I did get some truth, but not enough to satisfy. It seems that everyone retains a little error and will not give it up.
I attended the last conference in Nashville and was favorably impressed with the humility and friendliness of everyone there. The defining attribute of the members and first time visitors at the conference was an obvious attitude of 'like mindedness'. I spoke with thirty different people and I really dug into their personal lives and personal opinions about God, the Bible and their sense of what God is teaching His called out people. In spite of the fact that most had never met before, it was as if we had been life long friends. It was a beautiful, refreshing thing to behold.
My point in writing this is that there is evident among the members a definite sense of being taught by the spirit of God as opposed to having to learn to translate what another person is saying. Whether Ray is speaking on his topic of the day or whether a new friend is relating what they have been learning at home before the conference, what you notice most is that almost everyone listening is nodding their head in agreement. What you hear after the lesson is given is "I've been trying to put that thought into words myself and when I hear it stated by someone else it is so clear, so obvious".
There is just no other way that I can explain what is happening. We are all listening to the same voice or spirit. Sure, Ray and Dennis and Joe and Kat and Arcturus are all individuals with their own personalities, but they are being fed by the same Holy spirit and after you listen face to face for only a few hours it becomes obvious that we all have the same teacher.
I can't recommend any special course of action for you at this point in your growth in grace and knowledge, but I do know that when your mind or our mind is on the same frequency as God's spirit, things just begin to fall into place as if it was natural, as if you had known and understood all of your adult life.
I pray that you will be able to have this experience, maybe at the next conference, and I pray that you will hold onto this opportunity on the forum and continue to share your thoughts and questions with us. Just keep in mind please, that it is Jesus our Lord who is doing the teaching here, we all are just relaying what the Holy spirit has given us.
Please critique my remarks above, I do want to understand how you feel.
indianabob
Dennis Vogel:
If I may add another point.
In most other bible forums just about everyone is on the same page that's been around for the last several hundred years.
But here at BT, we are not even on the same planet let alone the same page as traditional Christianity.
If we allow links to other teachers it soon escalates into many other confusing threads. Left unchecked it will cause some to get angry and cause other divisions. After a while this forum would be hijacked by those who disagree with us. And then new people who come here to learn what BT teaches will get confused at best.
We don't expect anyone to check their brains at the door. It's okay to ask one narrow question at a time (but not many single questions all at once), even if it is contrary to what we teach.
As I said before, when it seems to us that someone is promoting another site either intentionally or unintentionally, that's when we have to act. I hope everyone understands.
Dennis
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