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indianabob:
Yes,

The standard story is that even LIGHT cannot get out so that's why the area is called a black hole. Now the astrophysicist are making an exception for heavier or so called objects with 'mass' to get out since they are rubies and diamonds and have value for star building.

In ten more years the story will be reversed again.  It's the yo yo theory, expansion and contraction and it's not good science.

p.s. the light waves that were observed were generated 60 million years ago and have been traveling all that time through a 'pure' vacuum (?) and have not been affected by any of those dust particles along the way.  Although the other black holes have been generating massive quantities of dust particles in the meantime.  Plus the stars and planets have all moved to new locations during the interim filtering the light waves/particles.  But our instruments, located on the earth or maybe on the Hubble telescope are able to sort that all out, no problem.

Yes, and if you'll just send me your tithe every month I'll guarantee salvation for you and your family.  Hmmm.

This looks like a scam and we shouldn't fall for it just because the authors have PhD in front of their names.  Prove all things and hold to that which is good.

p.p.s. I do take seriously the idea that we are all made of dust and appreciate Joe's noting of this relationship.  It's just that I worked with scientist for 25 years and have some reservations about their methods of securing funding.  Once you start in a designated science field you have no real choice but to continue or go back to selling cars. 

Science does quite well when there is a profit motive and the research is proven successful by regular use, theory is another story.  But the people want to believe that the human race is so smart.  It's the same attitude that gets us into misunderstanding in religion.  If the majority believes it then it must be true

So, Trust and verify.

Bob

SandyFla:
Bob,

Thanks for your explanation.

It sounds like something I told a believer in evolution, back when I enjoyed arguing with them. He said he based his belief on science. I know evolution is not science, but anyway ... I asked him where he'll be in a few years when the science he believes is proven wrong and replaced a "more correct" science. You know, eggs are good for you; no they're not because they cause cancer ... Saturn has one solid ring; Saturn has many rings composed of separate rocks ... etc.  :D

OH! That reminds me: We had a thread awhile back asking for oxymorons. Here's another one: It's an "exact science."  :P

Sandy

indianabob:
Sandy,

I think that I'm going to like you.

I like to learn and I appreciate correction when it's for my own good and when I can understand it.

I am a little less than accepting of correction when the author uses language that is over my head.

I worked at University long enough to learn that people who truly know their subject can explain it to fifth graders if they will pay attention.

I think that I am smarter than most fifth graders, but only because I make a point of keeping up.  So when an evolutionist or an astrophysicist tells me that it is just too complicated for me to understand it puts me on guard.

I make it a practice to try to trust everyone, until they get into my wallet or try to tell me what to believe.

That's why I like Ray as much as I do; he is not afraid to answer my questions and I don't get any double speak.

Hope to hear from you often.

Indianabob

fe32k:
So Stars come black holes and black holes come from stars. Chicken or the egg all over again.

Grateful:
Hi all !

Yep, we're all made from Stardust!!  Now doesn't that just put a smile in your heart??!   :D :D  We are part of the Beauty of the Cosmos.   Have any of you ever read Dr. Fritjof Capra's (a nuclear physicist) book, The Tao of Physics ?  To be truthful, it IS a "handful" to read this book, but what I got out of it, basically, was this :  Matter is Energy and LIGHT ,  if you follow atoms' construction allllll the way down into their constituent parts in a linear accelerator, with accompanying photos & captions.  I got a big WOW!!  out of reading this book!!  It deepened, widened, and heightened my appreciation for God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    :D :D :D   ::)    8)

Loving to learn more about Him,

Linda

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