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indianabob:
Joe,

A book, "The God Particle", written by Leon Lederman about 20 years ago, discussed all the research he had been involved in at Fermi Lab near Chicago, IL.  In that book Lederman, a man who loved a good story, attempted to explain in undergraduate terms how atomic particles are detected.  One method is to detect vibrations.  No vibrations, no detections.
Following that idea, as I recall the story, Lederman explained the God Particle as a point in space vibrating at high frequency.  The subsequent thought then is if the vibrations cease there is no detectable particle, so it's just gone.  That would seem to make the God Particle a vibrating point in space.  Interesting?  Factual? Who knows.

I think the particle was called the Higgs and attributed to it was the capacity to impute mass to other detectable particles within its field of influence

Like most good scientists, these physicist are good at measuring physical aspects of the created universe and at projecting physical effects deriving from that data, but that doesn't mean that they understand how the physical universe actually works.  An example is when they project the measurable speed of light photons within our solar system onto the entire balance of the universe assuming that nothing changes or has changed over time.

In similar manner, the religious scientists get very close to the truth of how God's plan for mankind works, but without direct spiritual revelation they are prone to error and theoretical speculation, and while I have no problem with speculation if it is labeled as such, so called experts try to impress us that they have found the final answer to all of our questions.

I am pleased that folks on the forum have the humility to recognize our limitations and patiently wait upon God to reveal His plan when He is ready. 

Isn't this forum fun?

Bob

hillsbororiver:

--- Quote from: indianabob on November 06, 2007, 08:22:57 PM ---
  An example is when they project the measurable speed of light photons within our solar system onto the entire balance of the universe assuming that nothing changes or has changed over time.


--- End quote ---

Hi Bob,

I can appreciate your skepticism of science and I share your reluctance to make it an idol of the heart, but the point Ray was making and by extension this thread is that science is catching up to what was written in the Bible thousands of years ago. Not that we need science to verify the Truth(s) contained in scripture.

You made the above point about conventional scientific wisdom being a static universe where nothing changes, but in fact that view has changed, it is now commonly accepted that the universe is yet expanding, that would be in fact quite a change, wouldn't it?

We depend on science and technology hundreds of times every day, electricity, and all the appliances attached to it, automobiles, telephones, computers, the Internet, I could go on and on. When we can use (especially) proven measurable elements of science to further prove the sacred scriptures where is the harm? I feel that this only deepens convictions and once again displays the fact that our God is in control of everything.

His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe
   

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