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49 = 7x7 = total completion/books of the Bible
rjsurfs:
Having listened to all the audios from the Mobile conference... and some sections several times I am not understanding something.
In session 6 about 3/4 through - Ray is talking about the all the books of the Bible being put together... he talks of John adding his books... joining them with the other books.
He comes up with a total book count of 49 (7x7 = total completion). He mentions the King James having 66 books... but I believe I am missing how Ray made the connection. I have listen to that section of the audios over and over but I'm not hearing it.
Did he make mention of the King James not having the books numbered properly? I heard him say something about proper numbering... but I missed the explanation.
Can someone who was present at the conference explain this?
Bobby
Kat:
Hi Bobby,
I will copy that session that is in the notes for you here. It should help :)
SEVEN CANONIZATION PERIODS
1. Moses
2. David and Solomon
3. Isaiah and Hezekial
4. Jeremaih and Joshiah
5. Peter
6. John
The Catholic Church did not canonize the Scripture, nor did the Protestant Church canonize the Scripture - THEY WERE ALREADY CANONIZED BY GOD'S SERVANTS HUNDREDS OF YEARS EARLIER!
What happens if we add the Catholic numbering of 39 books for the Old Testament to the 27 books of the New? We get 66 - that's man's number. So in order to avoid such an obvious unsavory number, the Catholic added 11 apocryphal books to their 66 number, bring the total to 77, a more godly number, albeit, not an accurate one. Such nonsense does not justify the addition of apocryphal books which do not belong to the canon.
There were 22 books in the Hebrew Scripture and 27 books in the Greek Scriptures (22 collected by Peter, and 5 more [Gospel of John and I, II & III John and Revelation]) added by John = 49 or 7 X 7 - Completeness and Perfection! Not one can be added nor one taken away - WE HAVE THE COMPLETE BIBLE!
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
rjsurfs:
Thanks Kat!... Although I'm still in the dark... I don't understand how he is counting... no matter how I count I am coming up with a different number.
I don't have the Apocrypha... but I still have 66... what am i missing?
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Bobby
I was not physically present at the conference, yet what I would like to share is my amazement when it was disclosed that The Book of the Kings of Judah and Israel, (The Book of the Kingdom) was ONE book written by Isaiah that are represented as four books in our Bibles. The FOUR books we have being 1 Kings 2 Kings and 1 Samuel and 2 Samuel were ONE Book!
I liked what Ray observed that the mix up of the chronological order messes up our minds! I never knew that Malachi was not the last book of the OT and that Ezra wrote the last books as in Chronicles!
I think this study that Ray shares with us is so vital. If someone messes up the foundation then for several hundreds of years, you can be sure no one will see straight! We live in interesting times don't we! ;D
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
ciy:
Bobby
That is amazing how I just listened to that this morning. I love how God uses numbers, colors, metals, animals, etc to confirm his plan.
Kat is probably finding it but on one of the the sessions Ray talks about how originally Samuel, Kings, Chronicles were all one book instead of 1st and 2nd. Nehemiah, Ezra, and one other was one book and the minor prophets were one book which added up to 22 books in the OT and 27 books in the NT.
Good stuff.
CIY
PS - Sorry Arcturus I did not mean to post over you. I was excited about that session I listened to this morning.
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