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vicolive:
My apologies for last posting a RELIGIOUS TOPIC.
I hope this  question is  within the rules.
I have always believed as Ray states about God and Jesus,but, one flesh.
I have recently had some JW'S come to visit,and their beliefs are different,they have been very persistant on what they believe,I need one powerful scripture to prove  them otherwise.{all scripture is powerful} but it seems they dont want to hear my reasoning.
I have come to believe Ray's teachings,and now Im not attending any church as I feel over the  years I have  been misled .Is there a church that  has the correct teachings {all of them} as Ray does? and if so which one would it be.
Thank you
V.

Craig:
I can only suggest read and study your bible and Ray's teachings.

As for one verse???  If I gave you 1000 verses you won't change their mind.

Craig

rk12201960:
HI V
Been there done that got the scares to prove it. I was a jw for over 13 years and I've learned way more from God via Ray in the last 10 months.

Do you want the scriptures for them or are you in the middle?
Because you can show them for as long as you like but until God writes it in the hearts its for nothing.

They don;t believe God created evil. they think satan was a good spirit then turned evil (that makes God a failure, would you want to worship a God who can;t control his creation?

Take it from me unless God pulls them there is no way they are going to come.
I've tried.

I strongly suggest to study Rays teachings and let them on their way.
I truly hope this helps.

Randy
PS
How can they believe their god is perfect when they believe that satan turned evil on his own without Gods direction or creation.
Isn't that a mistake? Think about it.
Don't waste your time on their false teachings.

Kat:

Hi vicolive,

Here is an email Ray answered about 'where to go to church.'

http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1304.0.html ------

People ask me about "where to go to church" almost on a daily basis. They know that their church and all other churches that they know of, do not teach the truth (worse: they teach lies and heresy).  And so they think that maybe I know of a church a few blocks from where their from or a few miles from their home that does teach all of the truths of God.  Sorry, there is not such thing that I am aware of.
 
If there were churches scattered through BABYLON THE GREAT WHORE, then there would be no need for God to admonish those whom He is choosing, to "COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE" (Rev. 18:4).  Are we to just come out of her spiritually, but remain good social friends with them on a weekly basis?
 
Church is not now and never was, a physical building to congregate in to worship God.  Could all the hundreds of thousands of Israelites congregate inside the tiny little tabernacle in the wilderness?  Could ALL JUDEA congregate in the tiny Temple in Jeruslem every sabbath?  The synagogues became corrupted and the churches today are corrupted. So where do you want to go?  If you want fellowship why not join a social club and keep the false religion out of your fellowship.
 
Jesus taught us that we are to worship God in spirit and in truth, not in this mountain or in Jerusalem, or in a building, or another other "place" that is corrupted.  I can't tell people what to do. If "christian fellowship" means more to them than "godly worship," then I guess they just  have to keep looking.
 
Being a follower of Jesus Christ was never designed to be a "feel good religion" as many christian churches promise if you join their particular tents on living a worldly life for Jesus.  I trully never miss, "CHURCH"!  I "go to church" every time I open my Bible."

God be with you,
Ray
 

Grateful:
Good afternoon!

My JW neighbors once told me that Jesus is the SON OF God, but NOT God.   Now, I know that Jesus IS Jehovah, the Creator God, but is He, in fact :  GOD ??  I know also, that Jesus and the Father are TWO different Beings, but ONE in Spirit (They have the SAME Spirit indwelling in both of them).   So, what IS the correct answer to :  Is Jesus God??  I'd like to know this for myself, at least, even if I cannot convince any JW of whatever the actual Truth IS.  Can anyone help me here?  (BTW, my JW neighbor lady did NOT believe me when I told her 2 years ago that Jesus is Jehovah.....she said,  "Huh?  You've lost me there."  Since I was so new to Ray's BT website then, I did not have the facts to back up my utterance, without GIVING HER the entire transcript of Ray's revelatory paper on Jesus.  So, since then, I've been pretty discreet as to WHO I tell WHAT to, with regards to Bible Truth.com's teachings.  Several HAVE been receptive, and perhaps a useful seed has been planted in the rest.  I DON'T enjoy arguing with people about Spiritual Truths when it's highly-obvious to me that their mindset is adamantly set against anything different from "what they've been taught" all their lives.

So, anyway, is Jesus "God",  or is the FATHER "God" and Jesus the "Son only"?? (I do not say the latter lightly!)  I tried to find the reference on this in a search on BT Search engine, and couldn't, so I'm asking for help from any of you who have been in BT for far longer than I have (which is 2 years) and who KNOW the answer to my question.  Thanks ever so much!!

God's rich Love and blessings to ALL!   :D    Have a BEAUTIFUL evening, why don't you??!!   :D :D ::)

Linda

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