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fe32k:
Hey Bros & Sis's,
     I have a nagging issue that I just have not been able to shake off for years. In order to get a clear answer I have to give a short background, so please bare with me.

     My wife and I attended a small pentecostal church in Harlem, NYC about 2 years ago. I was very involved and a "high prospect" and many "prophesied" that I would be the next pastor. unbelievable. Anyway, it was a Hispanic church and was extremely charismatic. It is a common trait of Hispanic Pentecostal churches. So we would frequently have the speaking in tongues, screaming, and yelling, and waving hands and the falling backwards, etc. Even as a youth minister in the church, I was NEVER charismatic and was very skeptical of the falling backwards and shaking and speaking in tongues. My wife was even more skeptical than me. I guess you can all see where this is going. Well one day we went to visit another church. Things began to get a bit loud and rowdy in there as people were "receiving the Spirit" and shaking and speaking in tongues. I, as always, I sit down in dissapproval of this whole thing only to peak to my left and to my surprise, my very skeptical wife, is shaking uncontrollably while speaking in tongues and finally falling to the ground with a big thump! She was about 4 months pregnant at the time, so my initial concern was the baby (the baby was fine). She had to get picked up and carried back to her chair. She must have been exhausted after all that seizure type shaking. I couldn't believe or explain what had just happened. Finally after all this was able to sink in, I got the guts to ask her "What the heck was that?!!" She does not remember exactly what happened, but she did confirm it as a legitimated experience and she felt it was of God at the time. But as always with these things, she was the same exact person afterwards. No super spiritual revelation, no difference in attitude, no difference in character. Nothing. Was this an act of the Devil? Or was it a an act of God? Is this scriptural. I know Ray does not think so, but I used to believe this was all just acting. Now I know that at least it is a real experience since I know my wife is being very sincere, I just do not know what the source of it is.

We no longer attend any babylonic institutions and we both felt that it was the right decision. Although, neither of us were ever able to explain what happened that day. Has anyone here had a similar experience? and can anyone lend some insight on what happened? I am still a little baffled. Any and all comments are welcomed.

God's grace and love be with you all,
Fe

sonofone:
I am so curious to know what kept you and your wife in a church for two years that neither of you felt in sync with? Also did your wife never speak in tongues again? Was she sitting in church one minute and then bam the next out cold speaking in tongues,only to get up and not no what just happened ,or why?

As for speaking in tongues I believe Ray teaches that this manifestation was an earthly language miraculously given to some believers during and for some period of time after the day of Pentecost.He further shows that there is no such word as unknown tongue,which is commonly used and practiced in charismatic churches.

This type of tongue is not a language gift as was described in the scriptures.As for your wifes experience I suppose she will have to square what transpired to her against scripture,and that is as much as I would feel comfortable saying about that,as I am not God,and would not want to speak on this beyond what I have just said.

rjsurfs:
Hi Fe,

Ray has an entire paper dedicated to this subject:
http://bible-truths.com/tongues.htm

I suspect you may have already read it though from your quote:

--- Quote ---...Is this scriptural. I know Ray does not think so, ...
--- End quote ---

The paper is short and here is a teaser from the opening:

--- Quote ---Million of Pentecostals and Charismatics (not to mention other Protestant and Catholic tongues speakers) claim to possess a gift from God, which enables them to "speak in unknown tongues." What is the Scriptural truth regarding this popular Christian doctrine which is claimed to be a primary proof that one either does or does not posses God’s Holy Spirit?

That there are millions of such sincere people desirous of worshiping God in truth as they understand it, I have no doubt. However, the truth will always set us free, so shouldn’t we desire the truth at all cost? Is it possible that what appears to many on the surface to be a marvelous blessing from God, is in reality nothing more than a physical display of the carnal flesh? It behooves all tongues-speakers to read this paper carefully and prayerfully, with an open mind and an open Bible. If modern tongue-talking is not of God, then those who do it are not free, but in bondage, and as such will never be free or grow in God’s Truth.

--- End quote ---

This is a great study that covers this subject entirely.
 
Bobby

Dennis Vogel:
Mass hypnosis is real and happens.

UncleBeau:
I agree with Dennis, ha ha. You know, you have to at LEAST ask some questions. Like, WHY would God make anyone shake "uncontrollably"? Does he not inspire(make) us to do and will of His pleasure? Does His pleasure not have a purpose? What redeeming value is there for a pregnant woman flopping on the floor? How does that edify the Body of Christ? Also, after you learn the truth about it (read Ray's paper on it), and if God wouldn't do something so foolish, then what would? Who is it in the scriptures that sets his throne up in the church and deceives the whole world? Anyway, glad the baby's okay.

your friend,

-Beau

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