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God is creating (present) man in His image?
hillsbororiver:
Frank, I agree wholeheartedly, the Spirit of God who is our Teacher and our Advocate before the Father and is always interceding with Him on our behalf, that is none other than Jesus Christ;
1Jo 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Rom 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
Rom 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Rom 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Rom 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Rom 8:22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
Rom 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
I found it interesting and instructive that in the verses above we find the root word of creation and creature to be the same, does this help give another insight into the fact that we are "in process" and not "created" into a finished product as of yet?
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κτίσις
ktis'-is
From G2936; original formation (properly the act; by implication the thing, literally or figuratively): - building, creation, creature, ordinance.
formation
Function: noun
Pronunciation: fo r-'mA-sh&n
1 : an act of giving form or shape to something or of taking form : DEVELOPMENT
2 : something that is formed <new word formations>
3 : the manner in which a thing is formed : STRUCTURE <the peculiar formation of the heart>
4 : the largest unit in an ecological community comprising two or more associations and their precursors <grassland formation>
5 a : any igneous, sedimentary, or metamorphic rock represented as a unit b : any sedimentary bed or consecutive series of beds sufficiently homogeneous or distinctive to be a unit
6 : an arrangement of a body or group of persons or things in some prescribed manner or for a particular purpose
ertsky:
i just wanted to say that in my zeal to be completely seperate from false doctrine it may appear as if i personally dislike Lightseeker.
this is definitely not the case
it is the false doctrine i hate not the person who holds it, i bear Lightseeker no personal ill will at all.
i hope all trinitarians come to be set free from all false doctrine, just as i have the same hope for myself in Christ.
that is
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
if anyone insists on a false doctrine being true, after two decent goes at discussing it, i would have to love that person by rejecting them till they repent.
especially if they reject the testimony of several trustworthy brothers on the matter
1Jo 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
1Jo 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
just trying to say it's not always pleasant, but we have a duty in Christ, to not allow false doctrine to pass unchallenged amongst ourselves.
2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
2Co 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
to me if i am to be presented as a chaste virgin to Christ then keeping seperate from false doctrine is of vital importance.
satan cannot defeat Christ in us head on for,
1Jo 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
but if he can get some false doctrine in amongst us he has really the chance to wreak havoc, we need to take heed to the doctrine, to the extent that we are faithful to His Word we are faithful to Him. to the extent we know His word we know Him.
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ertsky:
and also i felt this verse
1Th 5:21 Test all things, hold fast the good.
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PS: WOW! great insight Joe
Lightseeker:
Frank,
--- Quote ---i just wanted to say that in my zeal to be completely seperate from false doctrine it may appear as if i personally dislike Lightseeker.
this is definitely not the case
it is the false doctrine i hate not the person who holds it, i bear Lightseeker no personal ill will at all.
--- End quote ---
Thanks for your clarification Frank. It's comforting to know that all the teeth marks were really just love bites. :wink:
JOH 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.
JOB 11:4 For thou hast said, My doctrine is pure, and I am clean in thine eyes. 5 But oh that God would speak, and open his lips against thee; 6 And that he would shew thee the secrets of wisdom, that they are double to that which is!
There are many levels in God and it is wise to never put a roof on the level you're at.
ertsky:
Lightseeker are you a trinitarian or not?
your post certainly indicated you are
if you are, you are in error and need to repent of that false doctrine
thats my love there Lightseeker
trying to warn you and others that the trinity doctrine is false
Rev 3:19 I, as many "as I love, I rebuke and I chasten." Be zealous, then, and repent. Prov. 3:12
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