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Rene:
--- Quote from: Chris R on November 25, 2007, 07:01:57 AM ---Hi Rene'
Sometimes we all concentrate on angels with harps, visual images of a wonderful place, and peaceful times, and justly so, but its going to get a whole lot darker before the light shows.
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Chris,
Personally, I never concentrate on "angels with harps, visual images of a wonderful place......, (Babylon's image of heaven). We at BT know better than that. :)
Rene'
Deborah-Leigh:
Chris R
You are so right!
I find more subtle are the temptations to deceptions to go and purchase a book on how to escape your circumstances, bad nature, bad habits by buying the latest best seller by Joel or Joyce or Paula or etc etc. Look at how many how to do it books are for sale out of Mystery Babylon. Any junkie can imagine heaven but who can take a quick fix to carnal discomfort through deceptive teachings and go away thinking that the lie is the truth and the Truth is a LIE! ...and FEEL GOOD TOO! after reading such perversions as are being made merchandise out of Babylon.
Ray Smith won't sell one book because freely he has received and freely he gives. Joe has just given the stats on the Tithe collections being $97 BILLION per year for the USA.. That figure is not counting book sales I bet you!
Peace be to you brother
Arcturus :)
Chris R:
--- Quote from: Rene on November 25, 2007, 08:55:48 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chris R on November 25, 2007, 07:01:57 AM ---Hi Rene'
Sometimes we all concentrate on angels with harps, visual images of a wonderful place, and peaceful times, and justly so, but its going to get a whole lot darker before the light shows.
--- End quote ---
Chris,
Personally, I never concentrate on "angels with harps, visual images of a wonderful place......, (Babylon's image of heaven). We at BT know better than that. :)
Rene'
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Hi Rene'
I tend to think of a peaceful time, perhaps not angels with harps, but the time when all are given the knowledge of truth.
Surely we dont know exactly what is going to take place, or when, but post 9/11 seems to point to these days, "in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall"
thanks for your reply
Peace
Chris R
Chris R:
--- Quote from: Arcturus on November 25, 2007, 01:50:27 PM ---
Chris R
You are so right!
I find more subtle are the temptations to deceptions to go and purchase a book on how to escape your circumstances, bad nature, bad habits by buying the latest best seller by Joel or Joyce or Paula or etc etc. Look at how many how to do it books are for sale out of Mystery Babylon. Any junkie can imagine heaven but who can take a quick fix to carnal discomfort through deceptive teachings and go away thinking that the lie is the truth and the Truth is a LIE! ...and FEEL GOOD TOO! after reading such perversions as are being made merchandise out of Babylon.
Ray Smith won't sell one book because freely he has received and freely he gives. Joe has just given the stats on the Tithe collections being $97 BILLION per year for the USA.. That figure is not counting book sales I bet you!
Peace be to you brother
Arcturus :)
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Hi Deb,
Yea that is for sure, although i have never watched it, the "Left Behind" series was dropped off to me a few years ago by my brother, i think i watched a few seconds of it, so i couldn't comment on the film.
I reckon it's some sort of "survival guide" for those left behind or something?
Pretty sad actually.
Peace sister
Chris R
hillsbororiver:
Hi Everyone,
Before 911 (The emergency code for America and most of Canada "coincidently") when the towers came crashing down there was a certain smugness within these borders of America's invincibility, of how we were God's special country and could do little to no wrong. Well, since then our own arrogance, sense of entitlement and our spiritual, moral and ethical weaknesses are staring us in the face and it is not pretty!
I am not bashing America nor do I hate the people of this country but what I see now is the result of a certain complacency that exists not only in the secular world but also in the church world, they are of the same spirit and mirror each other almost perfectly.
From what I can see this country is not alone nor is it the only country with severe judgments on the horizon, no country I am aware of can make the claim to putting it's citizens first or in making it a top priority to help those less fortunate than themselves, they really all are as beasts seeking to devour one another unless of course there is a dollar (or euro or yen) to be made.
Since we are presently the richest and strongest nation on earth and God certainly knows how to capture one's attention it makes perfect sense that He would make an example of this country, especially as He is using us to do it to ourselves!
I was struck by the synopsis of a former White House staff member and Presidential candidate Pat Buchanon's newest book, have a look at the following, amazing.........
NEW BUCHANAN BOOK DECLARES 'END OF AMERICA'
"America is coming apart, decomposing, and...the likelihood of her survival as one nation...is improbable -- and impossible if America continues on her current course," declares Pat Buchanan. "For we are on a path to national suicide."
The best-selling author and former presidential candidate is on the eve of launching his new epic book: DAY OR RECKONING: HOW HUBRIS, IDEOLOGY AND GREED ARE TEARING AMERICA APART.
This time, Buchanan goes all the way:
"America is in an existential crisis from which the nation may not survive."
The U.S. Army is breaking and is too small to meet America’s global commitments.
The dollar has sunk to historic lows and is being abandoned by foreign governments.
U.S. manufacturing is being hollowed out.
The greatest invasion in history, from the Third World, is swamping the ethno-cultural core of the country, leading to Balkanization and the loss of the Southwest to Mexico.
The culture is collapsing and the nation is being deconstructed along the lines of race and class.
A fiscal crisis looms as the unfunded mandates of Social Security and Medicare remain unaddressed.
All these crises are hitting America at once -- a perfect storm of crises.
Specifically, Buchanan contends:
• Pax Americana, the era of U.S. global dominance, is over. A struggle for global hegemony has begun among the United States, China, a resurgent Russia and radical Islam
• Bush’s invasion of Iraq was a product of hubris and of ideology, a secular religion of “democratism,” to which Bush was converted in the days following 9/11
• Torn asunder by a culture war, America has now begun to break down along class, ethnic and racial lines.
• The greatest threat to U.S. sovereignty and independence is the scheme of a global elite to erase America’s borders and merge the USA, Mexico and Canada into a North American Union.
• Free trade is shipping jobs, factories and technology to China and plunging America into permanent dependency and unpayable debt. One of every six U.S. manufacturing jobs vanished under Bush
• “Sovereign Wealth Funds,” controlled by foreign regimes and stuffed with trillions of dollars from U.S. trade deficits, are buying up strategic corporate assets vital to America’s security
• As U.S. wages are stagnant, corporate CEOs are raking in rising pay and benefits 400 to 500 times that of their workers
• The Third World invasion through Mexico is a graver threat to our survival as one nation than anything happening in Afghanistan or Iraq
* European-Americans, 89% of the nation when JFK took the oath, are now 66% and sinking. Before 2050, America is a Third World nation
• By 2060, America will add 167 million people and 105 million immigrants will be here, triple the 37 million today.
• Hispanics will be over 100 million in 2050 and concentrated in a Southwest most Mexicans believe belongs to them
Buchanan’s Recommendations:
• A new foreign-defense policy that closes most of the 1000 bases overseas, reviews all alliances, and brings home U.S. troops
• A purge of neoconservative ideology and the “Cakewalk” crowd” from national power.
• To avert a second Cold War, the United States should “get out of Russia’s space and get out of Russia’s face,” and shut down all U.S. bases on the soil of the former Soviet Union
• To reach a cold peace in the culture war, Buchanan urges a return to federalism and the overthrow of our judicial dictatorship by Congressionally mandated restrictions on the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court.
• To end the trade deficits and save the dollar, Buchanan urges a Hamiltonian solution: a 20% Border Equity Tax on imports, with the $500 billion raised to be used to end taxation on American producers
• To prevent America becoming “a tangle of squabbling nationalities” Buchanan urges: No amnesty for the 12-20 million illegal aliens; a border fence from San Diego to Brownsville; Congressional declarations that children born to illegal aliens are not citizens and English is the language of the United States; and a “timeout” on all immigration.
But remember this;
Mat 6:34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. (King James)
Mat 6:34 So do not worry or be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will have worries and anxieties of its own. Sufficient for each day is its own trouble. (Amplified Bible)
I know there have always been in each and every generation those who prophecy of doom and gloom, most often it has been predictions of some natural or supernatural catastrophic event, but here we have the evidence right before our eyes!
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
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