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3 days 3 nights
Chris R:
--- Quote from: Snowfire on November 27, 2007, 08:05:09 PM ---Quote from Ray:
"In the HEART OF THE EARTH" is a parable showing the unbelievable agony of the human spirit and flesh that Jesus would go through LEADING UP TO and INCLUDING the time in the tomb. And those three days began on the PREPARATION FOR THE PASSOVER, seeing that Jesus, HIMSELF, was to BE THE PASSOVER!!!
Why does Ray say "In the HEART OF THE EARTH" includes the time in the tomb?
During the time in the tomb Christ was dead. Yet in the "Sign of Jonah", Jonah is alive during that time.
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You should send Ray a note, and ask what he meant.
Chris
hillsbororiver:
Hi Snowfire,
My take on what Ray presented (and your question) begins with the questions, what did Christ come to the earth in the flesh for? What was the ultimate purpose? What is the worst sin mankind has committed, what has Christ overcome for us? What exactly is the heart of the earth, what does this really describe?
Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Psa 58:2 Yea, in heart ye work wickedness; ye weigh the violence of your hands in the earth.
Christ overcame sin and death for us, He experienced and was victim to the worst sin ever committed, the ultimate wickedness , the first portion of those 3 days and 3 nights were the low point in the history of man as our loving Creator was beaten and tortured to His death.
The second portion of those 3 days was His actual death, He had to die (and actually be dead) before He could be risen from (overcoming) death, the pain and suffering of sin unto death were the very things Christ overcame for us by His resurrection.
As Jonah was bound in the whale for 3 days and 3 nights our Lord was bound in the pit of man's (the earth's) depravity resulting in His death. Look at Jonah's prayer, see any similarity with the prayer of Jesus in Gethsemane?
Jonah 2
1Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly,
2And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
3For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me.
4Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple.
5The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.
6I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.
7When my soul fainted within me I remembered the LORD: and my prayer came in unto thee, into thine holy temple.
8They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy.
9But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD.
10And the LORD spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land.
After 3 days and 3 nights the the fruits of wickedness which are sin and death no longer had power over our Lord and Savior just as after 3 days and 3 nights the whale no longer had power over Jonah.
I can see what Ray is saying here as those 3 days and nights encompassed the entire process leading up to the death of Christ beginning at His arrest. It is apparent that the first part of the equation (pain and suffering at the hands of men) has been left out of the conventional thinking on this prophecy.
We know the heart of men (earth) is desperately wicked, it was underlined during those 3 days and nights 2000 years ago.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
Luk 24:6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,
Luk 24:7 Saying, the Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
This appears to say that it is 3 days from the time he is delivered into the hands of sinful men.
His Peace to you,
Joe
Deborah-Leigh:
Thank you Joe for that insight that the three days are from the time Jesus was delivered and that Satan is external.
Quoting Ray:
I assure you that there is not now, nor has there ever been A WAR IN THE THRONE ROOM OF ALMIGHTY GOD. This kind of nonsense only happens on Star Trek and in the minds of Christian theologians. http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,3224.0.html ;D 8)
Peace be to you
Arcturus :)
cherokee:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on November 28, 2007, 10:33:06 AM ---Luk 24:6 He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,
Luk 24:7 Saying, the Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again.
This appears to say that it is 3 days from the time he is delivered into the hands of sinful men.
His Peace to you,
Joe
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Joe,
Thanks for that insightful scripture. I believe this one also points that way.
Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
The definition of destroy-1. damage so as to eliminate. 2. kill
Ever learning,
Suzie
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