Hi fe32k,
I found all these email. This should help your understanding
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Jesus NEVER said that He would be "buried" for three days and three nights. Where did He ever say such a thing? You made that up. He said He would be "In the heart of the earth" for three days and three nights. He did not say that he would be "burried" for that time, or even "dead" for that time. Remember this is "the sign of JONAH." WAS JONAH D-E-A-D? I'll write a paper on this went I get good and ready to write a paper on this and not before. Sorry.
Ray
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Dear Lyndon:
You just don't get it. You are inventing one unscriptural theory after the other. Jesus did not say He would be DEAD for three days and three nights. Jesus did NOT say that He would be BURIED in a tomb for three days and three nights. You can say that if you want to, but you know that it is unscriptural. Jesus did not say that as Jonah was in the belly of the fish for three days and three nights, so He would also be in the belly of a fish for three days and three nights. You still don't get, do you? It's a PARABLE, but you don't believe that either, do you (Matt. 13:34)?
Are the three days and three nights of Jonah being compared with the three days and three nights of Jesus? NO! No, that is not the point of comparison. You are totally, totally missing it. Here is the point of comparison:
Jonah: "AS... Jonas was three days and three nights IN THE WHALE'S BELLY,
Jesus: SO... shall the Son of man be three days and three nights IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH."
There is your "comparison."
There is your "sign."
There is you "parable."
AS "in the whale's belly," SO "in the heart of the earth."
But you still don't know what this "parables" means, do you? For you have not a clue as to what "in the heart of the earth means." Some day I will write a paper and explain all this, but not today.
God be with you,
Ray
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OF COURSE JESUS WAS DEAD after they crucified Him. But what does that have to do with "in the DEPTH OF THE EARTH?" You just don't get it. Give it up.
This conversation is over. I will give the answer when I write my paper,
which will not be today.
Ray
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Okay, THIS will be my last communication on this (for SURE).
I never said, or even suggested that Jonah's commission was a "parable," now did I? No, I did not. You know as well as I (or maybe you don't, but now you do) that you need a SECOND WITNESS to establish any spiritual truth. I gave you that second witness, but you didn't even get it because you are still thinking carnal and physical and literal, and that kind of thinking will never explain a parable, as parables are only "SPIRITUALLY discerned."
The second Scripture that is a Second Witness to "heart of the earth" is "Now that He ascended [which He did], what is it but that He also descended first into the LOWER [DEPTH, LOWER, UNDER, LOWEST LEVEL, etc.] parts of the earth?" (Eph. 4:9). There it is. There is the second witness. But you still don't know what this parable is. The "heart [depth] of the earth" IS the parable. I will tell you what it means and how it was that it lasted for three days and three nights when I write my paper. Til then, have a nice life.
Ray
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Dear Herman:
Actually I don't believe I have ever given the complete answer to this question. I will write a paper on it in the future. It will take at least ten pages to explain it. Jesus never said what "length of time He would be in the tomb."
It is assumed that He said that, when in fact, He did not. He said He would be "three days and three nights IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH." He did not say He would be DEAD for that period, or in the TOMB for that period, for He clearly was NOT dead for that period or in the tomb for that period. He was crucified Friday afternoon and rose from the dead early Sunday morning, and there is absoutely no way to configure those days according to the Scriptures. I don't have time to explain it in an email, as it would take me all day.
God be with you,
Ray
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Dear Eric: No, I am not "having difficulty distinguishing this time-line." I know from the Scriptures when Jesus was buried and when He was resurrected. Your theory is, however, not Scripturally correct. I do not have time to write a paper on this subject now, although I have received possibly one hundred emails such as yours trying to "straighten me out." Most of them have used your Wednesday evening crucifixion/Thursday was a Holy Day theory. I will just give you a couple of problems with this theory: ;
[1] Jesus never said He would be "DEAD for three days and three nights." Most everyone who tries to solve this problem make that unscriptural assumption. Jesus said He would be "three days and three night IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH." Remember this is the "sign of Jonah," and Jonah was NOT DEAD AT ALL, not even for one day.
[2] You state: "that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath day, (for that day was an high day)...." Meaning to you that that day "Thursday" was an high day." Not so. Let's read Joh 19:31 "The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,)...." Ah, did you catch that? It doesn't say that "that day was an high day," does it? No, it says "for THAT SABBATH DAY was an high day." Big difference. There is your Scriptural answers. THAT SABBATH DAY [Saturday] was ALSO (in addition to being the weekly Sabbath day), was ALSO an high day. It is redundant and meaningless to suggest that "that Sabbath day was a Sabbath day" or "that high day was an high day). No, it was that SATURDAY, 7TH DAY, SABBATH DAY was ALSO an high day. Your Thursday high day theor y falls flat.
[3] After the resurrection early Sunday morning, word went out the Jesus was taken from the tomb. Two of Jesus' disciples felt that they had been let down. They headed for Emmaus. On the road Jesus met up with them (this was LATE Sunday afternoon), but He didn't makes His identity known. He asked the two men why they were so unhappy. They informed Jesus that the One they though was the Messiah was gone. They explained to Jesus..."how the chief priests and our ruler DELIVERED HIM TO BE CONDEMNED TO DEATH AND HAVE CRUCIFIED HIM. But we trusted that it had been He which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this TODAY IS THE T-H-I-R-D DAY since these things [condemned to death and crucified] were done."
Oops! What have we here? From the day that Jesus was condemned and crucified until SUNDAY late afternoon was "THE third day." According to your theory, Wednesday was the day Jesus was "condemned to death and crucified." Now let's count: day one Wednesday; day two Thursday; day three Friday; day four Saturday; and day five Sunday. Sunday afternoon would have had to be the FIFTH day according to you theory.
Etc., etc.
I will write a paper on this subject explaining it fully when I get a chance, and my explanation will not contradict ANY Scriptures.
God be with you,
Ray