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First Adam/Second Adam
hillsbororiver:
There has been alot of stuff rolling through my mind lately, in discussions about the unity of the messages contained within The Parables, the following verse was presented in regard to how it relates to the 1st Adam and the 2nd Adam, our carnal nature and Christ within.
Does anyone see where I am going with this? Remember scripture is more often than not many layered with types and shadows throughout.
Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor?
Any and all comments will be appreciated and respected.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
No takers yet I see, ;) take a look at the key words (in bold).
Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor?
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
josh:
That's really interesting Joe... I'm currently taking a course entitled "The Formation of the Christian Tradition".
It's interesting how so many people through the ages have attempted to explain the union between the divine and the human within the Savior, Jesus Christ.
I'm sure I don't have to tell you that we haven't studied an answer that is even nearly adequate in explaining this miraculous union.
I believe this verse you have pointed out has illuminated some things within my own thought process... Thanks again for sharing the things you find within the scriptures, Joe... they are always a constant help to me in my own journey.
God's Peace.
Josh
Gregor:
The difference between the clay used to make the vessel of honour and the clay used to make the vessel of dishonour is none. The difference is only found in the process of firing the clay properly, which gives it the lasting strength and durability. If I am to be used as a vessel of honour, I too need to be subject to God's refining fire. It doesn't mean that I'm any better or different than someone else, but only proves it is God who decides who goes through the fire and when. Without the "kiln" process, no one could be a vessel of honour.
Is that sort of where you're going with this Joe?
hillsbororiver:
Hi Josh and Gregor,
Thank you for the responses and kind words.
Gregor, I don't want to get too cryptic here but you are getting close as to the "Fire" and it's effect on one part and a totally different effect on the other. We can get back to that a little later.
The following verses are often used (among others) by proponants of the rapture theory/doctrine, but they are much deeper than those folks are aware of, back when I was considering the rapture and verses such as these I wondered why it seemed that 50% of the population were to be "taken away" when the teaching is that only a very few would be "raptured."
Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
Luk 17:35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luk 17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
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