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God Is Hell???
hillsbororiver:
Hi Amrhrasach,
No, I haven't been presented with that particular bit of babylonian logic, this appears to be yet another word meaning that is changed so that fits their doctrines....
Grave = hell
Pit = hell
Sheol = hell
Gehenna = hell
Etc.
The word "work" in this verse means virtually the same thing in Greek as it does in English;
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ἔργον
ergon
er'-gon
From ἔργω ergō (a primary but obsolete word; to work); toil (as an effort or occupation); by implication an act: - deed, doing, labour, work.
Let's read this verse again;
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
To me calling another person "my work" seems a bit presumptuous, every man, woman, child and every creature in heaven and earth is the "work" of God not man. We of ourselves do not have the power to choose Christ, it is He who does the choosing [John 15:16] and we have no influence (again of ourselves) in bringing anyone to Christ, certainly He uses us as examples and admonishes us to be ready to give an answer when asked but we are powerless to effect change in ourselves or anyone else, it is only through the work of His Spirit.
The work being spoken in 1Cor 3:15 is our lives, do we work things to glorify Him or ourselves, do we work to gain more wisdom, more of His Spirit or do we work to obtain worldly things such as money, vain glory, praise of others, etc.
Ray has written an excellent article in regard to "winning" souls for Christ, here it is;
http://bible-truths.com/souls.htm
Peace,
Joe
Heidi:
--- Quote from: Chris R on July 12, 2008, 05:53:33 AM ---But now...wow..what a difference, i dont have hate for anything anymore, gone...totally amazing
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Hi there Chris R......I know exactly what you mean, and so would anyone else whom God has opened their eyes.....I really belief that this feeling....wow.....brings unity, because we are all experiencing being set free by His grace. It falls exactly in with what Craig wrote..........
--- Quote from: Craig on July 12, 2008, 05:45:34 AM ---The old me, sinned and asked for forgiveness and mercy and hoped that my Father would not torture me for my sins, the new me sins and am disappointed that I fail my loving Father so much.
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AND....is it not amazing that we all had the same thread going....that is the working of the Holy Spirit in us ;D
Thanks again Joe for your wonderful insight.
Love in Christ
Heidi
aqrinc:
Hi Joe,
Found this gem while mining in hilly countryside. It is very pertinent to my discussions all day today.
george. ;D
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Craig on July 12, 2008, 05:45:34 AM ---
--- Quote ---.I have also had family and friends say "why not live it up large now, drink as much as you want etc. etc......". Whereas for me....I love God and feel humbled by it all and have a desire not to sin and as I walk in the spirit and grow by His grace become more like Christ Jesus everyday.
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Wow Heidi you are so right. I have followed Christ all my life. The old I, did not "live it up" because of the fear instilled by religion, now I don't "live it up" because of the love I have for my Father and not wanting to disappoint Him that loves every person in the world.
The old me, sinned and asked for forgiveness and mercy and hoped that my Father would not torture me for my sins, the new me sins and am disappointed that I fail my loving Father so much. The old me was scared of death and where I would spend eternity, the new me looking forward to my physical death and the first or second resurrection to either rule with Christ or to be finally purged and cleansed of the awful beast within me. I'm deserving of the second and it won't be fun, but either way I am in the hand of a loving God and he will perfect me.
Craig
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Ditto Craig & Heidi, ditto....it's a totally different mindset that the Lord instills in us when He reveals Himself.
Thanks for bumping up George. :)
Marques
Terry:
What a great thread i hadn't seen this one before
Hey George it took about 30 minutes before i got what you where mining for in the hills(Duh)
Hi Joe,
Found this gem while mining in hilly countryside. It is very pertinent to my discussions all day today.
george.
I thought you might be mining for gold and after it hit me i see you was mining for gold.
Terry
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