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God Is Hell???
aqrinc:
--- Quote from: Terry on August 25, 2009, 12:07:47 PM ---What a great thread i hadn't seen this one before
Hey George it took about 30 minutes before i got what you where mining for in the hills(Duh)
Hi Joe,
Found this gem while mining in hilly countryside. It is very pertinent to my discussions all day today.
george.
I thought you might be mining for gold and after it hit me i see you was mining for gold.
Terry
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Treasure chests more like it every time.
LOL ;D, george. 8)
Marky Mark:
Not only are we our Fathers treasure,but we too seek our Lord, to mine the Spiritual treasures from the heavens above.
Ezra 5:17 Now therefore, if it seem good to the king, let there be search made in the king's treasure house, which is there at Babylon, whether it be so, that a decree was made of Cyrus the king to build this house of Elohim at Jerusalem, and let the king send his pleasure to us concerning this matter
Exodus 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Ezra 7:20 And whatsoever more shall be needful for the house of thy Elohim, which thou shalt have occasion to bestow, bestow it out of the king's treasure house.
Psalm 135:4 For YAH hath chosen Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure.
Proverbs 15:6 In the house of the righteous is much treasure: but in the revenues of the wicked is trouble.
Matthew 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Matthew 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
2Corinthians 4: 6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, has shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
Peace...Mark
daywalker:
Hey Sorin,
Here's a great Scriptural passage to go along with your post:
Matthew 23:25 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you are cleansing the outside of the cup and the plate, yet inside they are brimming with rapacity and incontinence.
26 Blind Pharisee! Cleanse first the inside of the cup and the plate, that their outside also may be becoming clean!
27 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you are resembling the whitewashed sepulchers which outside, indeed, are appearing beautiful, yet inside they are crammed with the bones of the dead and all uncleanness.
28 Thus you, also, outside, indeed, are appearing to men to be just, yet inside you are distended with hypocrisy and lawlessness."--Concordant Literal New Testament
I too struggle much with the 'outside' stuff, but I know my 'inside' has become much cleaner and purer than it used to be; and slowly that inward purity is making its way outward and manifesting itself in the physical world.
Peace, Out
Daywalker 8)
--- Quote from: Sorin on December 11, 2007, 09:27:51 PM ---"Well if everyone is going to eventually be saved, as you teach Mr. Smith, then why should those of us who are following Christ now, not just go out and live it up? Why shouldn’t we go out and fornicate, get drunk, steal, kill, or do anything we want? Why not just enjoy life and have a happy time? Why should we obey God or pray or go to Church, or be concerned for other people now if we are all going to be saved later anyway?"
That's pretty much the same thing my older brother {who goes to church every sunday mind you} said to me when I said there is no hell.
And I said, well you obviously don't really want to follow Christ, and worship God, you're ONLY doing it to get out of hell. The second you
believed there is no hell, you wouldn't be able to wait to start sinning again. And I also said, then how do you explain the people who no longer believe in hell, and know there is no hell, yet they STILL want to obey God. Aren't they the one's that really love God, and don't just worship Him to get out of some fabled Christian hell?
Then he said, well judging by the way you live your life, the smoking, the drinking {and yes, when I get angry} the cussing- why should I believe you? You're obviously not a good example etc.. etc...
And he is right, but also wrong. Because, just because he and like the pastor, and our uncle who is a pastor he used as an example of those who clean their bowls on the outside, and may do some good works, like raising money for the poor, etc....
They still teach that Jesus is NOT The Savior of The World, because you can't be the Savior of the world, if you don't actually save the world. And they don't believe He will, they believe God will torture people with real fire for all eternity and they see no problem with it.
But hey, they're clean -cut Pentecostal Christians who would never drink a sip of an alcoholic beverage and always dress sharp when they go to church, oh and they wear suits and ties. So I guess they're telling the truth. I mean, look how 'clean' they are {on the outside}...
-Sorin
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brok54:
Mat 5:22 ...but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell (gehenna) fire.
Let me run this by y'all for feedback. Something came to me out of the blue, so to speak, while I was driving down the freeway a couple of months ago. I recalled an incident when I was in the Navy many years ago. I was standing a night watch with one of my close friends. I don't remember what sparked the incident, but I do recall that for some reason, I ended up calling this good friend of mine an a$$h@le (thou fool) in an extremely agitated and loud voice. In my memory, I can almost see the sadness that came over his face. And I can also recall how horrible I felt about it. That horrible feeling that I "suffered" and that drove me to repent of my anger and ask him to forgive me, I now believe could have been, metaphorically speaking; "gehenna fire".
Dave in Tenn:
I sure see it that way, brok54. You just almost couldn't ask for a more direct correlation and example. It's a beautiful thing when the Lord drags up these instances from our pasts to teach us real and valuable lessons now. It really demonstrates that we are His workmanship.
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