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Craig:
I copied Indianabob's post here because it speaks to the concept of this forum better than anything I could post.

To the members who seem to have a difficult time with the actions of the moderator's or studying the teaching of one man (Ray), I hope you can see something in this post.

Thanks Bob for your timely post.


--- Quote ---In the Shadows


Friend Steven,

All that needs to be said has been said and I cannot add anything more.
I would however like to summarize what has become more clear to me personally.

Those that God has called out of Babylon, out of the organized church, are the only true believers.
As nice as those other folks may be, humanly speaking, they are still in Babylon and don't intend
to come out no matter what I may say to them.  So, I leave them alone spiritually and fellowship
with them ONLY as neighbors and members of the local community.  They are not yet God's chosen
and when they are they will seek me out just as I will seek them.

Therefore, it is obvious to me that my present task is to learn all that I can through prayer, Bible study,
sacrificial love toward all people and spiritual fellowship with the very few that God has bound me to
in this phase of my spiritual development.  It is now my task to work with others of like mind, IRON
sharpening IRON and not to correct or offer enlightenment to any who have not yet been chosen.
I am not an evangelist at this time, I am still and shall remain a student.

In this group I have noticed that there is ONE teacher.  One at a time is a good plan, it avoids confusion.
The rest of us, all of us, are students.  We can share our personal visions and our tests or trials
and share how we have struggled to overcome our own limitations and how God has worked on us,
sometimes without our knowledge until it suddenly became apparent and that is good.  However, we
need to consciously avoid the temptation to become teachers ourselves.   Why?

We are something like undergraduate students in God's University.  We all know that we shall become
Bachelors and Masters and Philosophers eventually (BA, MA, PhD) but for now we do not stand before
any other persons, outside the University, and present ourselves as competent instructors.

Yes, we do write theses and present them to our Teacher once per semester.  And yes we do present
our ideas and theses to one another for practice and to check the spelling and appropriate use of
words according to accepted meaning, but we are not graduates, we are not professors, we are yet
students and have not earned the right and are not qualified to speak for God.

This time of testing is to allow us to grow in knowledge and wisdom and the grace of our Lord.  We are
to grow in grace by exercising grace, by patiently enduring the daily trials that come to all who love
God more than self.  There will be time enough for us to teach in the resurrection to LIFE.

As Martin King has said, "I have gone to the mountain top and I have seen the promised land."
We few have been given the vision of God's true plan for mankind, we need to treasure it in our secret
place, our heart of hearts, until the time for its revealing is given.
It is a wonderful thought and that thought will motivate us to remain faithful until the end.

See King's final thoughts below.  (If he only knew the full story)

Well, I don't know what will happen now. We've got some difficult days ahead. But it doesn't matter with me now. Because I've been to the mountaintop. And I don't mind. Like anybody, I would like to live a long life. Longevity has its place. But I'm not concerned about that now. I just want to do God's will. And He's allowed me to go up to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the promised land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the promised land. And I'm happy, tonight. I'm not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.

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Deborah-Leigh:

Craig

I believe this post given to us via Bob should not be lost but should be part of the Forum, perhaps not rules per se but certainly Forum Council :) It is inspired.

Peace to you

Arcturus :)

psalmsinger:
That is a most timely and understandable enlightenment from Indiana Bob.  Sometimes even the lowliest members of such a group may be ask to teach another to "tie their shoes" at some point or another like in kindergarten.  It is at that time that we are "the teacher" and will have someone either embrace the teaching of the Truth or be persecuted for it.  "Go ye therefore and teach all nations" may sometimes mean to explain the more simple concepts to those who ask......thank God that He provides teachers for every level as needed.


Rest in the Lord,

Barbara

Chris R:

--- Quote from: psalmsinger on December 14, 2007, 07:39:51 PM ---thank God that He provides teachers for every level as needed.


Rest in the Lord,

Barbara

--- End quote ---

Hi Barbara...

Thats a pretty cool statement, I had never thought of it that way! Thanks for teaching me something new!

Peace

Chris R

psalmsinger:
Being ready to give an answer when asked is only accomplished through the work of Christ.  When it is time, the Lord will give us the boldness to speak the word without fear.  I certainly struggle with this and feel miserably inadequate when ask to share or give advice in a matter.

Rest in the Lord,

Barbara

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