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M_Oliver:

--- Quote from: Sorin on December 12, 2007, 07:31:18 PM ---Hi Mark, thanks for those words and your honesty.

God Bless,

Sorin

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Your welcome.  Thank you.

Mark

Sorin:

--- Quote from: Prosizz on December 13, 2007, 12:40:46 PM ---I am not sure if you are trying to find an excuse to your sinful life when you state that "I believe that my life could not have been any different
then it was, and everything that happened was meant to happen, was supposed to happen.", yet I will also testify that I am still struggling with  my daily carnal life. I always wonder if I am excusing myself when I console myself with word like "The gross mistake I just made was suppose to happen". I feel sometime that somethings in my life I should have control over, which I think I do sometime but certain whims and desires I fall prey to daily.Why, I can't explain. It is just hard.


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Hi Prosizz,


Even IF I were 'trying to find an excuse'; would it really matter to God? Will He then say to me, well you have a really good excuse, therefore you're excused?

But I'm not 'trying to find an excuse', because I chose to do all those things out of the abundance of my own heart, which is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked. Who can know it? Jer 17:9

As for feeling that there should be somethings in your life that you should have control over, well you do, you have the ability to choose, but not the ability to make an uncaused choice. You do however bring up a good point, but since we lack free will, and our lives are preordained, and since God Is Sovereign, then that's just the way it is.

As Ray said: " We have the ability to choose, but in the end we will make the only possible choice we could have made"
or something to that affect, correct me if I misquoted him.

So that's what I meant by everything that happened was supposed to happen, and I guess it was all for a reason, a learning experience if you will...

Peace,

Sorin

Sorin:

--- Quote from: M_Oliver on December 13, 2007, 06:47:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: Sorin on December 12, 2007, 07:31:18 PM ---Hi Mark, thanks for those words and your honesty.

God Bless,

Sorin

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Your welcome.  Thank you.

Mark


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Thank you too Mark.  :)

eskimojerry:
Sorin, I feel that I truly relate to what you are saying. Thank you for your honesty. You know, it baffles me. I learn all these spiritual truths that Ray relates to us and yet, I cannot attain that which I've learned. In my soul, it seems like it is the biggest thing that I want, but in reality, its just not possible for me to attain that now. And I thank God that I'm not beating myself over that anymore. There is still that striving for that goal...

Sorin:

--- Quote from: eskimojerry on December 14, 2007, 09:27:00 AM ---Sorin, I feel that I truly relate to what you are saying.
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Well, that's good.  :)


--- Quote from: eskimojerry ---Thank you for your honesty.
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You're most welcomed.


--- Quote from: eskimojerry ---You know, it baffles me. I learn all these spiritual truths that Ray relates to us and yet, I cannot attain that which I've learned. In my soul, it seems like it is the biggest thing that I want, but in reality, its just not possible for me to attain that now. And I thank God that I'm not beating myself over that anymore. There is still that striving for that goal...

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I know just what you mean...

Take care,

Sorin

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