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Sell Christendom's books???
SteveB:
--- Quote ---Statements like this scare me. Only one truth. Keep searching. Never trust man.
Pro 3:5 Trust in Jehovah with all thy heart, And lean not upon thine own understanding:
Pro 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, And he will direct thy paths.
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"never trust man" may be true but God uses the foolishness of preaching thru MEN to save His people.
Laren, you know of any lie that Ray and Mike are teaching? Inquiring Minds...
1Jo 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby, know we the spirit of truth,and the spirit of error.
1Co 4:16 I beseech you, therefore,-become imitators of me.
Peace...STeve
Laren:
--- Quote from: SteveB ---
--- Quote ---Statements like this scare me. Only one truth. Keep searching. Never trust man.
Pro 3:5 Trust in Jehovah with all thy heart, And lean not upon thine own understanding:
Pro 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, And he will direct thy paths.
--- End quote ---
"never trust man" may be true but God uses the foolishness of preaching thru MEN to save His people.
Laren, you know of any lie that Ray and Mike are teaching? Inquiring Minds...
1Jo 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby, know we the spirit of truth,and the spirit of error.
1Co 4:16 I beseech you, therefore,-become imitators of me.
Peace...STeve
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Steve, I'm not saying they are teaching any lies, at least not purposely.
They teach what has been revealed to them. But the revelation of Christ in each of us is a process, a process of going through the seals described in the book of Revelation. As far as I know, noone has gone through to completion of these, and Christ is not fully revealed to any of us. What we see is in part, not in completion yet. Fix your eyes on Jesus, the author and perfector of our faith. Full truth, is only in Jesus, not in man's teachings.
Brett:
--- Quote from: Laren ---
--- Quote from: Brett ---Ray and Mike are the only straightforward truth.
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Statements like this scare me. Only one truth. Keep searching. Never trust man.
Pro 3:5 Trust in Jehovah with all thy heart, And lean not upon thine own understanding:
Pro 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, And he will direct thy paths.
--- End quote ---
Laren,
I understand your point. Even I was fully trust in God's words but could not percieve His words in SPIRIT. For long years, I had percieve God's words was in FLESH, not in spiritual things. It was God's own best time. Until, I found them without my intending and they SHOWED very plain and simple truth of God, now I could see the very real truth. They show more verses to verses plus matching spiritual things with spiritual WITHOUT their own intertrepting like the Christendom does (1 Cor. 2:13; 2 Pet. 1:20). Of course, I trust God daily but He also used Noah, Moses, prophets, John the Baptist, Jesus [God], apostles and now today we are to test in spirit whether if man is from God or not (1 John 4:6). I didn't know what Rich and Lazarus parables means (even I was stupid student pastor) but Ray showed the deep of parables and Greek words of define of Rich man and Lazarus, now I finally thank God to showed me the real means. If I don't find Ray's site, then for sure I would preach with threat that Rich man has gone to Hell eternal! I do want to be damnable and heresies.
Jesus is our savior but not only for us but also for the WHOLE WORLD! 1 John 2:2. O:)
Hope this makes sense.
Laren:
--- Quote from: Brett ---
--- Quote from: Laren ---
--- Quote from: Brett ---Ray and Mike are the only straightforward truth.
--- End quote ---
Statements like this scare me. Only one truth. Keep searching. Never trust man.
Pro 3:5 Trust in Jehovah with all thy heart, And lean not upon thine own understanding:
Pro 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, And he will direct thy paths.
--- End quote ---
Laren,
I understand your point. Even I was fully trust in God's words but could not percieve His words in SPIRIT. For long years, I had percieve God's words was in FLESH, not in spiritual things. It was God's own best time. Until, I found them without my intending and they SHOWED very plain and simple truth of God, now I could see the very real truth. They show more verses to verses plus matching spiritual things with spiritual WITHOUT their own intertrepting like the Christendom does (1 Cor. 2:13; 2 Pet. 1:20). Of course, I trust God daily but He also used Noah, Moses, prophets, John the Baptist, Jesus [God], apostles and now today we are to test in spirit whether if man is from God or not (1 John 4:6). I didn't know what Rich and Lazarus parables means (even I was stupid student pastor) but Ray showed the deep of parables and Greek words of define of Rich man and Lazarus, now I finally thank God to showed me the real means. If I don't find Ray's site, then for sure I would preach with threat that Rich man has gone to Hell eternal! I do want to be damnable and heresies.
Jesus is our savior but not only for us but also for the WHOLE WORLD! 1 John 2:2. O:)
Hope this makes sense.
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Yes, makes sense, and i agree. :D :D
Brett:
--- Quote from: bobbys43 ---In my opinion I do not think any book should be burned! I would have to say that these books you have could be used to help you to refute the lies they contain! I would go through them and I would refute the lies with the truth and these could really be a good learning for you! I would combat the writtings in these books with the truth of God's word and make notes beside each lie that you see or read! Put the scripture verse beside each lie you come across with the truth of God's word and you never know when you may have to confront someone on the teachings these books have!! They would be a good way for you to study and really dig deep into the truths of God!! I do believe you could really get some good "meat" from God's word to refute this christiandom literature!
Just my opinion!!
It would kinda be like really seeing what God has brought you out of!!
bobby
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Thanks bobby. I appreciate you shared with your opinion. I keep some of books for in case to refute Christondom.
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