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Nashing of teeth and witnessing
rjsurfs:
Hi Chad,
Yes, I think we have all gone through something very similar... as most, if not all of us got here by coming out of Bablyon... we have come out of the church system of man. I could be wrong but I don't think we have anyone here that skipped that part of the journey. That part of the journey of course has purpose as everything else... even if it is full of corruption and deceit.
I was very involved in the church... worked very closely with pastors... was very involved in works of all sorts. In retrospect, I see how immersed I was in a lie... the idols of the heart, the pride of life, lusts of power and the grandiosity of man... that not only did I support that system but I wanted to excel at it. I wanted to be recognized... I lusted after much desires of the flesh... and now I see that is exactly what the church of man is... full of fleshly desires and accomplishments... focused on the physical... stuck on the letter of the law as opposed to the spirit.
When I found Ray's site originally I spent a long time just on the Tithing paper and the Fools, Hypocrites, Snakes paper... I think I needed that to know it was ok for me to actually leave the church... the church system that I had been a part of all of my life. After several months of that I was hungry for more of the meat of these teachings and started the Lake of Fire series which I just read and reread over and over... then over time I would select a different paper to read until I got through them all and now I try to keep up with all of the transcripts and audios... while still going back to the Lake of Fire paper continuously. But, it is God who is in control of our understanding the truth... so I would suggest not being too focused on the wanting it all now and just let the truths soak in as God reveals them to you.
Everything is working exactly as God planned it at exactly the exact time he intended... there is no necessity for us to fret about what we don't know... just pray, enjoy, be thankful, study, fellowship with us here at the forum... it will all come. Read everything at bible-truths.com and then read it again... if you do that I believe you'll find the majority of your questions answered and your concerns settled... you will also know exactly what being "like-minded" with us here in the forum and at conferences really means.
Bobby
Deborah-Leigh:
Musicman
Your experience is every bit as wonderful as any who are being delivered out of Babylon.
Like Bobby, I too was very much into the system of Babylon but did not know it. Reading what you shared Bobby sounded much like a leaf out of my own journey!
When I was participating in the system of Babylon, I really could not see for looking! :D I felt very grieved at times and had no clue as to why. In hindsight I can see that the "what" and the "why" arose also from my carnal desire to "fit in" , please my parents who had deep attachments to the Roman Catholic Church and so to find approval and to be accepted and belong to humankind my circumstances were set and my spiritual weak heart took me into the system hook line and sinker.
Only God could drag me out! It has been quite an experience and it is ongoing! The Truths here in BT are not shallow. They are very deep and rereading the insights and teachings seem always to open up new vistas of awareness and joy in discovery of liberating Truth.
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
Nikoa:
I really appreciate all the advise and please feel free to continue to speak into my life. This is such a weird time for me as I discover new truths. I know I need to believe God will continue to reveal new things to me but this is so BIG. I feel like I have been lied to my whole life yet its my own fault as I took another man's word for it rather than seeking Christ and studying the word on my own. It's amazing how the masses (me included) will just believe anything that's fed to us. Every chance I get I'm reading and listening to the studies on the site. Some things are like....why didn't I ever see that before? Sort of like the masses believing the 911 story of planes taking down the twin towers. I remember believing that like everyone else and never questioning it until I was presented with anther angle...outside of the force fed box (like church I'm learning). I learned that the twin towers, 1300 feet of steel and concrete fell in under 15 seconds (free fall speed) into its own foot print and that there was a 3rd building (WTC 7 47 story) that wasn't even hit by a plan also fell in 9 seconds (free fall speed) into its own footprint. This defies all natural laws of physics. First time in history that a steel structure building collapsed due to fire and it happened 3 times in the same day! This shook me to my core and it was really the first time I started to question what I was told. I just want the truth. I'm hungry for the truth!! Please pray that God opens my eyes and ears.
I guess the fact that I'm writing in this forum is one baby step forward and it really blesses me to know that you guys are there (where ever there is).
Gregor:
--- Quote from: Nikoa on December 22, 2007, 08:24:24 PM ---I feel like I have been lied to my whole life yet its my own fault as I took another man's word for it rather than seeking Christ and studying the word on my own. It's amazing how the masses (me included) will just believe anything that's fed to us.
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Greetings,
There's no blame to be laid: it's normal for babes to be fed by others, and then, as they mature, they start to feed themselves. You're exactly where you should be in your spiritual growth. :) There would only be a problem if you never realized this growth and continued to only be fed by others. Welcome to spiritual puberty, awkward as it may seem.LOL.
Kat:
Hi Chad,
It is good to see that you are embracing this Truth wholeheartedly :)
Consider that you have come into the light (the Truth) out of darkness (the deception of the church). Now doesn't the light seem that much brighter, having been in such darkness. Can you see the wisdom of first letting us know the dark, so that we can appreciate the light so much more. There is a grand purpose behind everything we experience.
I think the Truth must have endless dept of understanding, so that we can just keep on learning. God is wonderful and He is preparing a few Elect to reign and rule with Him. For those predestined from the foundation of the world (Eph. 1:5), He will give each exactly what they need to serve with Him. He does not reveal to us for sure if we are an Elect, but what a amazing hope and desire to strive towards.
We all are blessed to be here to share with one another, glad you are with us 8)
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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