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Deborah-Leigh:
Hi Patrick

You said : You could see the fire and tears in her eyes.

That is so beautiful.  :D

Why?

Because as you described her hearing the truth,  her blazing eyes for me were reflecting the consuming fire of God and her tears were her struggle against HIM not you.  :)

Meeting with the consuming fire of God in this life time on this side of the resurrection is surely judgement and chastisement and it hurts! But better this now not later under wrath and White Throne Judgment! What a blessing this dear lady experienced though I doubt she would agree! Also I do not encourage anyone to go looking to repeat or duplicate such an experience. Your situation and circumstances were arranged by God and you certainly did not go looking for touble!

Your words had to have cut like a blade out of proverbial Hell to the marrow of her false beliefs. No doubt your words were spontaneous and perhaps if you were to have a second chance at this challenging exchange you might have handled it differently knowing that she is caught on the brier of seductive false teachings and popular beliefs that award acceptance in belonging to the crowd if you go along.

I know it had to be difficult for you to enter into such a trial among "family" that is held yet in bondage and blindness but I see the purpose and plan of God to have caused you to experience this and to you is the blessing of having eyes to see and ears to hear.

Peace be to you brother

Arcturus :)

psalmsinger:
I try to mention that the spirit of the loved one has went home to God who gave it.  Everyone well versed in church doctrine can agree with that scripture and it is especially comforting to those who fear their loved one is being tormented in hell at that very instant per traditional teachings. Not being present in the church building equals going to hell in many peoples mind. Mentioning scripture referring to Jesus saving the whole world gets that point across too, even if they don't believe it.  John 3:16-17 is a great promise.  Been in the hot seat, done that, some family even thinks we are evil......... You are in good company here, carry on as Jesus Christ leads:)

Rest in the Lord,
Barbara

Ray-Ray:
know what ya mean patrick, I have a brother-in-law who is a baptist preacher, even met a couple of Jehova false witnesses . Ray-Ray

hebrewroots98:
Hello my sweet brother Patrick; it's been awhile since we have spoke, I was wondering where you had been;  MY HEART IS BREAKING FOR YOU...THAT MAKES ME CRY FOR YOU, AND IT TEARS ME UP INSIDE FOR YOU!! Bless your heart!  I have been there too, believe me!  It is such a difficult place to be!  You did what was ultimately meant to come from your mouth in the end, right?  All that I can say is to go and visit your mom and dad as often as the Spirit leads you to, and don't put yourself on a guilt trip for not doing more than you are called to do; plus, do not let them put you on a guilt trip either!  We all know that HE has HIS reasons for not opening their eyes and ears at this time;   Would it help for you to go at another time of the year instead?  (I too love those mountains in Ruidoso!  Around the Inn of the MOuntain Gods is  so beautiful too....though I wish they would have not named it 'mountain gods..') 


YOU JUST SING FOR JOY IN THE LORD YOU RIGHTEOUS SON, AND COUNT IT A BLESSING TO SUFFER FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS' SAKE!!!...AND BLESS HIS HOLY NAME!!!!! (YOU MUSTR BVE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT ;) ;D)

Amen Akira...you will be the center of attention at the table of the Lord!

Excellent points Arc!! :D

Blessings,
Susan 

Patrick:
Thanks for responding everyone.

Gena, I've not said anything since Christmas of 05', my mother knew a little bit (sent her the B-T link), but from talking to her, she has not read much. I learned early on, keep my mouth shut unless asked; I was one that tried to take the Truth to church and was run off. ;D
I also learned, even if you are asked, God may not remove the scales at that instant.

Brandon, I used to tell all my friends, that would listen, to get involved in church. And now I've told them to "come out of her." ::)

"Anti", I used to speak just as your dad. I pray God gives you strength to be a positive "center of attention" when/if you are ever asked.

Deb, I wish I could have seen it as you did; I saw anger and disappointment (carnal view  :-[)
Me look for trouble? ;D
My dad told me one time I did not have to go looking for trouble, it followed me around.

Barb, my sister-in-law got lost on the spirit/soul/body explanation; I probably did not give a very good presentation.

Ray-Ray, I got a JW to take some of Ray's teachings; they have not been back. Maybe I'm on their "do not disturb" list.

Susan, I've not been to the Inn of the Mountain Gods in many, many years. Before we built the cabin, I stayed there a few times for ski and golf trips. I've been going to Ruidoso since 1975 and got to know a bunch about the Mescalero Apache Tribe. They own and operate the resort and Ski Apache (ski resort); the mountains are very scared to the tribe, hence the name.

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