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hebrewroots98:
Thank you Alberta Guy and Craig. 

Craig and all, I too still have questions that I would like to have answered, but the BIGGIES (like NO HELL; NO TITHING; THE CHURCH IS TODAYS' SPIRITUAL HARLOT/THE BABYLONIAN SYSTEM; THE CHURCH IS DECIEVED AND THEY SERVE A DIFF GOD THAN THE BIBLES' GOD!, FREE WILL,  ETC...) are what really matters, and those biggies (thankfully, to Ray and those of you here) have helped me to get them answered.  (Ha, I remember writing down those same important questions when I was searching (ONLY half heartily) for the truth back then and then I began worshipping as a Messianic and FINALLY 10 years later  (when I had been dragged by the Lord out of the Babylonian church system)...still ALL of those important questions had still not been answered...ugh!)  As I said earlier, it was not till I got here that I was able to check off one answer at a time...and, those answers were not just head knowledge; they were LIFE, PEACE, TRUTH, SPIRIT; AND IT LITERALLY CHANGED MY ENTIRE OUTLOOK ON EVERYTHING PERTAINING TO LIFE AND GODLINESS! :D I have been set free indeed~  :D PRAISE GOD!

pawz:
Phil, that is about where I am too I guess, and your  words have reassured me.

Hebrewroots (Susan), my words were not intended as  criticism against Ray - I realise he has much to contend with, I have seen how hateful (literally) some Christians can be when their own understanding is challenged, and I know that I could not  carry on under such an onslaught of hate and vitriol as he has to cope with. He is driven on despite all that can be chucked at him by his own convictions and desires to  get the truth out there among so many sheep that have lost their way and are misled by their leaders,so I think. To be  blunt, Ray the person does not interest me, but if he can  fit a few more of the pieces into place, he has my willing attention, but in my study of his explanations and teachings his human responses get in the way, so I will edit them out.

I said I would be back today, and that was my intention - to do a bit more studying and then come on here if I had anything useful to say - but you know how mans ( and womens) plans go awry; We spent the morning  trying to find a place in Chichester selling cookers, and did, eventually, then when we got back someone phoned up with a sick computer,so  he came up and stayed a while before  I could get on with fixing it, and then after dinner tonight I had to clean out the recess where the old cooker stands ( and ladies, don't we know what a mucky job THAT can be! So apologies, I am too tired to do any more study now. Brain goes to bed by 8pm. I probably didn't need to give you all such a detailed 'day in the life of pawz' scenario, but while I feel a bit of a stranger here, I want to be known as a friend, despite my waryness of Ray and not knowing 'the rules' as yet. hope you understand.

Deborah-Leigh:
I don't agree with anything you say or infer about Ray Pawz. He is the kindest, bravest, sweetest man and it shows through his teachings that lack hypocrisy,forked tongues and deceits that are all too common in the false teachings techniques of heretics and sooth sayers :)

I hope you get to know Ray better as you continue to study his deep insights into the ways and purposes of God.

Peace to you
Arcturus :)

Truth101:
Hi Pawz.

I felt the same way 5 years ago when first coming to bible truths. I was weary of any teaching from anyone since my search for an honest disciple of Christ was hard pressed to find. Infact I had never found one but knew there must me since the original disciples existed and that church was the church Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail against (maybe because they are so hard to find :)).

You are correct that it is God that leads. We first try the spirits to see if they are of God and that is where you are right now. Like me You are very weary of any teachers and truly you should be. I never found sound doctrine in the church and I came to realise there just isnt any. I now know that God is leading Ray because my questions get answered and in finding these fundimental truths on BT I am able for the first time in my life to seek and find most of the time on my own the answers I am looking for because God is the one leading me to the truth, not some guy on a pulpit who only has an element of truth in which to decieve you into lies, leaving you more confused than when you first began searching for truth. Whether it is intentional or not.

Im glad you're here. We are all babes here learning to chew. I think everyone on this forum double checks everything Ray teaches to make sure it is truth. I do and I believe we should all do that. The more you study the BT web site the more you see that God is leading Ray and in doing so we are also lead. Maturity does take a lifetime and I'm only 37 so I got a long way to go myself.

God bless,
               Dave



pawz:
Dave, again you have helped me. It is true about being weary. I know my little church is not where I am on so many key issues, good and loving folk though they are, and being a black sheep among a flock of white is discouraging. Coming on forums, by and large has done me little good also - and yet we keep on seeking!

Well, it is late, but I am moved to go do a little bit more study before I turn in, so I will say no more.:)

Arcturus, trusting people  comes from knowing them. I don't know Ray, yet, so please  be patient with me. The way we  find out about each other, if that is allowed, is to share. I am feeling very disheartened with all things Christian at present - to the point of tears, but here I am. I can lurk rather than share if the rest of you would prefer - until I get a clearer picture of you all and of Ray.

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