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pawz:
Craig, Kat, appreciate your kind encouragement. Kat I will ponder your words - but I still have a 'but' in regard to that passage, simply because it seems to be talking about a literal earthly event and a literal consequence on earth - that is how it reads to me at present. However, I did not come on here to cause problems, so I will say no more. Thank you both. :-\

rjsurfs:
Hi Pawz,

Your sincere questions to gain understanding are not a problem at all... and I understand that many of the answers you see here appear short and maybe even as if people are withholding information... but it is as Chris stated... that it has taken hundreds of pages and many hours of study to bring many of us to understanding... I also believe that understanding often requires a journey of time as the meat of God's Word can not be immediately swallowed as milk, but must be chewed.

Keep in mind what you read at the beginning of the Lake of Fire series... I will quote a small excerpt:

"Most of my life I believed that the book of Revelation was a literal prophecy about events that will happen at the END OF THE WORLD! Prophesies that had virtually no meaning for those who have lived during the past two thousand years since it was written. But for most of my life, I WAS IN ERROR!

Now for a most important understanding. Just how was this revelation to John to be recorded and preserved? Notice it:

"...and he sent and SIGNIFIED it by his angel unto his servant John" (Rev. 1:1)

What does it mean to "signify?" Certainly this prophecy of the revelation or unveiling of Christ was written down (ver. 19), but it means more than just that. To "signify" has to do with signs and symbols. From my Webster's Twentieth Century Dictionary p. 1541, first definition of signify:

"to make known by signs or words"

First definition of sign:

"any symbol ...that represents an idea"

That which, being external, represents or signifies something internal or spiritual.

The synonym for sign is: symbol.

There is no mistaking this language. The book of Revelation is written in SYMBOLS! So what is written externally, on paper, in symbols, has a SPIRITUAL meaning and application."

Keep reading... I have read the LoF several times through (while studying scripture) and I gain more understanding each time.

Bobby

hebrewroots98:
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Welcome Pawz. 

Recently my little boy and I were talking about biblical matters and a christian evangelist (a paid staff member in an evangelists position at a christian church bldg) had asked me what it was that enlightened and why did I leave that church (the same denomination he is in right now), I told him that I would answer his question as to why I am enlightened, but I will not discuss/debate/argue anthing else with him (he kept wanting me to answer why I didn't believe in this that and the other anymore.)  After weeks of him rwanting me to answer all of his questions and him  really not wanting to know what made me enlightened; then I had to tell him that we cannot have the unity in spirit if he does not do as he said he would do and read BT web site where it will clearly show how I got enlightened.  He skimmed the subjects and came back and wanted me to answer all of his questions still; so, I told him that that would literally take years to answer all of his questions (and I could answer them), but that if (again) he would read and STUDY the info, he will find out most of what I believe and why I don't believe what I used to beleive as well as how I got enlightened.  Ultimately, he just wanted to argue his position and beliefs, not what it was that enlightened me...so, I have not heard from him since.)

 I do not believe that you want to argue, but, truly, just about everyone who has stayed for a long period of time on this site as members has read and studied the materials and has come away with nearly all of their questions answered via the info on the site....

Blessings to you brother, in your studies here....it will be the best journey in this life!!!! :D   

pawz:
OK Hebrewroots, thank you for taking trouble, I will follow your advice in the hope that  sooner or later it will answer my query - sooner I hope, and Bobby, yes, there is a degree of frustration building - but I will read on and see how I progress.

hebrewroots98:
Pawz,
Relax and take your time and let the spirit minister to your heart and mind; we don't want you to choke on this meat here @ Bt; the holy spirit is a gentlemn, in that he will only feed you what you are able to digest...and not any more. ;)  Let us know what you are learning!

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