Origen II Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject:
Yes...but they both believed in UR. So how were they 'milk drinkers' ?
UR is THE MILK OF THE WORD. That why i posted...
Heb 6:2 Of immersions-in respect of teaching, and of the laying on of hands, of the resurrection of the dead,
and of judgment age-abiding;- judgement 'age-abiding' is UR and everyone that uses these six doctrines ONLY is unskillfull in the Word...
Heb 5:12 For, even when ye ought to be teachers, by reason of the time, again, have ye, need, that one be teaching, you, what are the first principles of the oracles of God, and have become such as have, need, of milk, not, of strong food;
Heb 5:13 For, every one partaking of milk, is unskilled in discourse of righteousness, for he is, a babe;Heb 5:14 But, to such as are mature, pertaineth, the strong food, to them who, by reason of habit, have their organs of perception well trained for discriminating both good and evil.
SOTW Wrote...
Much of everything Origen preached was not milk, it was the reason why there is so much hatred against him 300 years later.
Not saying this isn't true but Craig could you give me an example of this. I've read Origen havent seen this.
Lastly, Egypt is a strange puppy. It is where most of the Lord's greatest achievements came from. Jesus Himself spent much time in Egypt in his first 30 years of life. So you have the Exodus of the Hebrews from Egypt, and Jesus who was on exodus to Egypt.
The Lords greatest achievements came from Egypt? HOw so? Spiritual Eqypt, yes, but literal Egypt...
And how is it that we know that Christ spent 'much time' in Egypt? Not saying its not true. I may be missing something. We know He was there til Herod died, but as my memory serves we are not told how long this was.
The Corinthians believed in it as they were taught by Paul. They fell behind in no gift and they were yet carnal, suing eachother, getting involved with foolish doctrines, being easily swayed. So knowing UR is not enough to be spiritual or eating meat. To me, the meat of the word is in the application of it in our lives (not just knowing the symbols). The meat is understanding Christ within us. Christ within us is the steak.
YOu got it man! UR is THE MILK(SWEET AS IT IS) OF THE WORD! This loving your enemies, Christ dying in YOU(Col. 1:24) and BEING OF ONE MIND, is THE OLE 96er STEAK of the Word.
As far a Origen goes MOST people thought very highly of him in his time, so this give me pause...
Luk 6:26 Alas! whensoever all men shall, speak well of you, for, according to the same things, were their fathers doing unto the false prophets.
I know he was persecuted and inprisoned late in life but he was the 'top scholor' of 'Chirstianity' at this time he was the, Bill Craig, Jp moreland, D. Jame Kennedy of his time. This should make you think.
And again I saw no 'stong meat' in his writings, but maybe i just didnt see them.
Peace...STeve