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the religion where CHAOS is their god...
Deborah-Leigh:
A Chaos agent/member/participator/unregenorated "Christian" will never admit they are a Chaos agent/member/participator or unregenorated. They prefer to appear /bluff/present themselves to others and themselves, as those who believe themselves to be/and follow and fellowship with other angels of light :D ;) and peace and love and and and.... ;D :D Rather funny if you glimpse the lighter side of this angle... ;D...and on a more serious note...blind is blind.
Interesting thread.
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
hillsbororiver:
Great thread Susan,
This has been going on all throughout the history of the church (believers) and it will "wax worse and worse"
2Ti 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
2Ti 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
2Ti 3:14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
There will always be those who seek to gain followers of their own personal doctrines in the name of Christ and to slander anyone who does not agree with them, it is the way of the "religious" world until the end of the age.
Pro 12:11 He that tilleth his land shall be satisfied with bread: but he that followeth vain persons is void of understanding.
Jer 23:16 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD.
Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Gal 5:26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
1Ti 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
1Ti 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
Tit 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
Jas 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
You know we never have to venture far to see these things, they seem to find us from every direction! ;)
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
Phil3:10:
hebrewroots98,
I personally think you are speaking of all of the major religions of todays world. Off course, they want to hide their real motives of chaos, division, untruthfulness, and ungodliness. I include not every congregation as I am certain our LORD has HIS remnant reserved.
However, all the church systems that follow the traditions of man and not GOD teachings do as Matthew 15:8-9 says, "These people with their lips is honoring Me, Yet their heart is away at a distance from me. Yet in vain are they revering Me, teaching for teachings the directions of men." (CLNT).
I do personally feel the Roman Catholic Church is the very heart and soul of this effort. My question, what is a church really? What is the ecclesia? There is a very real difference. Are we called out or are we called in?
In HIM,
Phil3:10
Deborah-Leigh:
Phil3:10
I agree with you. Take for example the wafer god that is an invention of demons and passed down to greedy spiritually weak persons in leadership and following after this superstition, bondage and blasphemy, that is manifest throughout Christiandom. Show me ONE Christian Church that does not practise this pagan ritual? So coming out means coming out of the seven Churches and not just moving from Thyatira to Sardis or from Pergamos to Philadelphia! I am not talking AT you or DOWN at you, when I use Caps. Caps are for me what is showing up for MY edification and notice and I am just sharing with a brother (you) of like mind which is a blessing.
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
PS I used to be Roman Catholic ;D I would never have left. God had to drag me! and He did! ;D
Phil3:10:
Arcturus,
What a personal testimony considering you came out of the heart of the beast. Our LORD never desired a church system, HE only wanted us to have a relationship with HIM. We can be like minded or we can agree to disagree. However, in HIM we are one and do not need a worldly system to further the pagan rituals and traditions of man.
I have come to believe that the church system has done more damage to the cause of our LORD than anything in history. I do feel that the most visible church systems, organized, institutional, and denominational can trace their roots right back to the Mother of Harlots. The Catholic Church, and her off spring, serve as the model in structure, style, lack of substance, pagan practices, and leadership for almost all the church systems of today. My earnest prayer is that our LORD will drag more and more out of the Harlot Churches and into the BODY OF CHRIST.
Phil3:10
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