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Fact versus Truth or two sided swordmanship
Gregor:
Beloved and Bobby,
Do you see something amiss in condemning "babylon" for resourcing an atheist's point of view, yet you yourselves resource babylonian radio?
Perhaps we can all learn that in warfare it is good to know your enemy, but know first that the enemy we are called to put to death isn't babylon, but the beast within ourselves.
Kat:
Hi Gregor,
I think the point that Beloved was trying to make was that Babylon conforms to this world. Then we recognize that Babylon is the same as the world.
Rom 12:2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, in order to prove by you what is that good and pleasing and perfect will of God.
Jas 4:4 ...Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Gregor:
Greetings Kat,
Thanks for your reply. I always appreciate your input.
John 1:23 Now when He was in Jerusalem at the Passover, during the feast, many believed in His name when they saw the signs which He did. 24 But Jesus did not commit Himself to them, because He knew all men, 25 and had no need that anyone should testify of man, for He knew what was in man.
This verse seems to be describing "babylon" perfectly. It could also apply to me personally in many ways.
John 9:40 Then some of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these words, and said to Him, “Are we blind also?”
41 Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, ‘We see.’ Therefore your sin remains.
I mostly see the spirit of pride in the pharisees statement - "We see." They were feasting, possibly with pride in their hearts in keeping the law and setting them apart from the "world" or "babylon," or so they thought. But nothing can purify man's sinfully wicked heart except Jesus.
John 5:39, 40
39You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. 40But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
Playing with a two-edged sword can kill in more ways than one, by turning against the one who weilds it, to say the least. I guess the question for me is where to draw the line when it comes to being "in" the world but not "of" the world. For example, a tatoo is only as significant as the intent of my heart for getting it in the first place. In the end it will perish with my flesh. Likewise, not getting one wont change the heart. As long as I'm in the flesh sin remains, whether it be outward and visible, or inward and only seen by the Father/Son.
I agree with gmik, I don't want to look like the Amish either. :P But foremost, on the inside, I definately don't want to look like the Pharisees. I want to say "I see", but I'd rather say "I believe" from the heart. This discussion has been very eye opening to me.;) Thanks!
In Christ,
G.
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