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Ray, Where's The Love. Man?
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Craig on January 06, 2008, 06:21:18 AM ---Ray, Where's the love, man?
Jesus preached on love. He showed mercy, forgiveness, and grace. He came so that sinners would repent.
Where's the love on your website? You website is full of anger and condemnation.
Where's the love?
Andy
Dear Andy: I have said hundreds and hundreds of things about "love" on my site, but when you are enraged and blinded by the Truth of God, you won't see the love. You are like the Pharisees who didn't SEE THE LOVE in Jesus' teachings:
JESUS UPBRAIDS THE CHURCH LEADERS FOR THEIR GROSS SINS
[selections from Matthew 23]
"But WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES… FOR YOU SHUT UP THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN AGAINST MEN…
…THEY BIND HEAVY BURDENS and GRIEVOUS to be born, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but will not move them with ONE OF THEIR FINGERS
WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES… you DEVOUR WIDOW’S HOUSES… you shall receive the greater damnation.
WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES…
WOE unto you, ye BLIND GUIDES…
You FOOLS AND BLIND…
You FOOLS AND BLIND…
WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! You… have omitted… JUDGMENT, MERCY, and FAITH…
You BLIND GUIDES, which strain out a gnat, and SWALLOW A CAMEL.
WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES… within they are full of EXTORTION AND EXCESS.
You BLIND PHARISEES…
WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! You are FULL OF DEAD MEN’S BONES, and ALL UNCLEANESS… and HYPOCRISY and INIQUITY…
WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES!… you are the children of them which KILLED the prophets. FILL YOU UP then the measure of your fathers.
You SERPENTS, you GENERATION OF SNAKES… you KILL AND CRUCIFY… you SCOURGE in your synagogues… Behold your house is left unto you DESOLATE"!!
WOW! Every one of these comments from Matt. 23 were spoken directly to the "Religious Scholars and Theologians" in the Church of God centered at the Temple in Jerusalem. Would Jesus speak in the same manner to the Religious Scholars and Theologians in God’s Church today? Does Jesus "change"? NO. Has the Church changed in the past 2000 years? YES. It has gotten WORSE.
God be with you,
With love,
Ray
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I wonder if the writer of this "Email To Ray" was impressed by the "love" of the Bakker's, Swaggert, The White's, etc. I also wonder if the writer thinks he himself is a beacon of pure undefiled unconditional love. It is an easy claim to make but not so easy to live. Just in the way he presented his opinion shows a lack of even brotherly kindness much less the culmination of all things good wrapped up in one word.
We all have a degree of carnal, selfish love, being kind and empathetic to our own but what about folks we do not understand or agree with? It can get a bit sticky then, can't it?
He may not know a thing about Ray but I have had the opportunity to meet and get to know him a bit and I have come to know a man who gives unselfishly of his time and resources who has the skills in many areas to have dedicated his life to the persuit of wealth and or power but instead devotes most of his waking hours to spreading the Good News that most of the mainstream churches has polluted. This to me shows more love than rattling off some venomous email probably intended to impress the writer's friends or followers.
Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Paul dealt with this type of vile innuendo and people who were only looking to tear down his work, I know we will be continually dealing with this as well;
1Ti 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
1Ti 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
1Ti 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
The accuser is an outstanding inventor of accusations and is not shy in sharing them, but he certainly "loves" his own friends and followers I would not deny that.
His Peace and Wisdom to you,
Joe
rjsurfs:
Yes Joe, this was a classic. When I read it the first time I saw, "Ray, Where's the lies, man?"
Isa 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
Bobby
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Bobby Proctor on January 07, 2008, 07:25:46 PM ---
When I read it the first time I saw, "Ray, Where's the lies, man?"
Bobby
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Hi Bobby,
Your response is right on the money. ;)
This stuff has a history even through the OT, thanks for the scriptural references.
His Peace to you,
Joe
chuckt:
Sometimes we only see what we want. or sometimes we are just blind by the providence of God.
ever read something ad say " what the heck"" the read it again at a later time and go ""Daaang""
i didnt see that before.
to the pure all things are pure.
may God continue to open all our eyes to his glorious truth, may those whom see a glimmer of light
in the darkness, may it become brighter and brighter....
peace yall....
chuckt
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: chuckt on January 08, 2008, 06:05:49 AM ---
may God continue to open all our eyes to his glorious truth, may those whom see a glimmer of light
in the darkness, may it become brighter and brighter....
--- End quote ---
Amen to that Chuck!
Peace,
Joe
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