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Samson:
Good Day Russ,

                      This is a very good and interesting post, after reading the free will series, I've been struggling with leaving total control in Gods' hands. Growing up in a household with a very controlling father who constantly emphasized that " I will make it happen and I will control my course and to not leave it in anyones hands type of a Philosophy", didn't help me. After reading the free will series and reflecting on my past problems in life, one thing stood out from that series, these Evils in my life always have a Humbling effect on me, like Ray mentions in the series, it seems to me that prior to all these bad experiences, I needed a wake up call, because at the time, I was too haughty. I started to think of Job, Peter,Nebuchanezzar and others who were humbled by God and benefitted later. 1Peter.5:6 was mentioned in the post prior to this and its' so true. If we are not humbled and refined in this life, God will humble us in the next. Better to pray for this refinement and receive Gods Spiritual leaning now and if its' Gods Will, we won't have to be purified, refined, humbled and chastised later. Thankyou Kat and everyone else for your contributions to this post, I needed it too.

                                        Christ be with all of you, Samson(Brad).

Sorin:

--- Quote from: Snowfire on January 17, 2008, 12:10:00 AM ---If we use our natural wants, needs and desires as a basis for our love of God,  we claim sovereignsty over God and we fail.
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Hi Snowfire,

I assume you were referring to me. And you're right, I am guilty of that, and I need to repent.
 


--- Quote from: Snowfire ---Remember God is our First love and God never Fails.

It all starts with God, not with us: "We love Him [God] because He FIRST LOVED US" (I John 4:19).


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My 'love' for God is also lacking... mainly because of the things I lack. I'd look at what other people have, and feel like God must hate me or something. Like I'm accursed of God, and they are blessed. So it's really difficult for me to 'love' God, but I guess I have to try. I have to not base my love of God on what needs or desires He brings to pass in my life.

-Sorin





Sorin:
Kat,

Thanks for that post; it was quite fitting with what I was saying.

Peace,
Sorin

Snowfire:

--- Quote from: Sorin on January 17, 2008, 08:47:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: Snowfire on January 17, 2008, 12:10:00 AM ---If we use our natural wants, needs and desires as a basis for our love of God,  we claim sovereignsty over God and we fail.
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Hi Snowfire,

I assume you were referring to me. And you're right, I am guilty of that, and I need to repent.
Sorin, the we in the above statement includes me too. I appologise for the statement coming out soo one sided.
You are not alone in this fire.
Snowfire 


--- Quote from: Snowfire ---Remember God is our First love and God never Fails.

It all starts with God, not with us: "We love Him [God] because He FIRST LOVED US" (I John 4:19).


--- End quote ---


My 'love' for God is also lacking... mainly because of the things I lack. I'd look at what other people have, and feel like God must hate me or something. Like I'm accursed of God, and they are blessed. So it's really difficult for me to 'love' God, but I guess I have to try. I have to not base my love of God on what needs or desires He brings to pass in my life.

-Sorin







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Sorin:

--- Quote from: Snowfire on January 18, 2008, 12:00:11 AM ---
--- Quote from: Sorin on January 17, 2008, 08:47:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: Snowfire on January 17, 2008, 12:10:00 AM ---If we use our natural wants, needs and desires as a basis for our love of God,  we claim sovereignsty over God and we fail.
--- End quote ---

Hi Snowfire,

I assume you were referring to me. And you're right, I am guilty of that, and I need to repent.
Sorin, the we in the above statement includes me too. I appologise for the statement coming out soo one sided.
You are not alone in this fire.
Snowfire 


--- Quote from: Snowfire ---Remember God is our First love and God never Fails.

It all starts with God, not with us: "We love Him [God] because He FIRST LOVED US" (I John 4:19).


--- End quote ---


My 'love' for God is also lacking... mainly because of the things I lack. I'd look at what other people have, and feel like God must hate me or something. Like I'm accursed of God, and they are blessed. So it's really difficult for me to 'love' God, but I guess I have to try. I have to not base my love of God on what needs or desires He brings to pass in my life.

-Sorin







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Snowfire,

No problem, I misunderstood, no need to apologize.

Peace,
Sorin

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