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Wrath Revealed
Deborah-Leigh:
Just to add the caution:
2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
2Ti 2:17 And their word will eat, as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
2Ti 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
fan55:
Thank you all for your kind welcomes and excellent input . I've delayed my respond because I'm trying to understand what you've all said. I'm a bit confused and too slow to learn. Forgive me.
To answer Arc, no, I believe wrath is not being poured out on anyone now, but it is being revealed and is remaining. How, is my question. How is His wrath revealed to those who suppress the truth?
Well I'll be darned, I think ??? the Lord has given me the answer just at this moment while studying the scriptures and typing this out. Here it is, I think:
How is His wrath revealed to those who suppress the truth? ANS: He reveals His wrath to them personally!! Oh, they know its coming; BUT THEY DON'T CARE!! They suppress the truth, which is defined in the next verse as "that which may be known of God", and included in that is His wrath, the unseen things of Him. vs 20: For the unseen things of Him (TO INCLUDE HIS WRATH, I believe) from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being realized by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, for them to be without excuse. That's why they are without excuse; they knew God's truth but but due to their weakness, still wanted to follow their own reasonings in spite of the fear that the Lord revealed to them should they continue in their ways! 21 Because knowing God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful. But they became vain (foolish) in their reasonings, and their undiscerning heart was darkened. They became fools because even after knowing that should they not obey the truth, they will anger Him, they still chose to continue in the evil ways. Now that's a fool!! Once they became vain in their reasonings, once they chose that path, then their heart was darkened by our Lord. But not all nonbelievers are like that. Many, I believe, IMHO, are those who know Him thru things that are seen, not having heard of Christ. Many are decent people who know of God in this manner and are made aware that things are to be done His way or they will suffer somehow. They have that healthy fear of Him. They are those who are uncircumcised (in spirit) and yet do the things counted for circumcision (spirit). Rom 2:26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? 27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? They'll stand before the GWT but suffer few lashes, I humbly believe.
In reference to Jo 3:36, His wrath is remaining, its still there, until the time is come to be poured out.
Anyway, that's what has come to my mind. Whether its of the Lord or not, I'm not sure. Maybe you all can help me some more see the truth of this wrath being revealed.
Once again, thanks for you input and please bear with me.
Charlie
Deborah-Leigh:
Hello fan55
I am glad you are seeing that the Scriptures show us that His wrath is not yet poured out. There is a time when it will be poured out. As for now, there is a type of His wrath, a shadow of what is to come when finally His wrath will be poured out.
For me this is revealed also in the Scripture you have posted, quote:
]Jo 3:36, His wrath is remaining,( is held back) its still there, (there is every reason for it being still there as the defiance of God, the rejection of God and the rebellion against God is still being acted out in the weak spiritual condition of those children of darkness who refuse His light) until the time is come to be poured out.( When He comes to rule with a rod of iron and His judgements are in the earth.
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
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