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rk12201960:
Time to move to America Arc?  ;D

Kat:

Hi Arcturus,

I guess there are national wooes all over the world  :-\

We are bogged down in the war with Iraq, with a presidential election this year who knows where this will all lead.
There is a recession looming, I believe because of the lax lending of recent years, which have lead to us being too deep in debt to pay it back.  Our financial institutions are made of a house of card ready to come tumbling down.
These are just a couple of our nations wooes.

As you have noted the crisis in your country, are we all heading for the swelling out in a high wall whose breaking is coming upon us suddenly. 

Here too I find, Because the whole head is sick, the whole heart is faint and there is no soundness in it. 

This has been the state of the world in this age ever since God created man in it.

Mat 24:3  Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"
v. 4  And Jesus answered and said to them: "Take heed that no one deceives you.
v. 5  For many will come in My name, saying, "I am the Christ,' and will deceive many.
v. 6  And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
v. 7  For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places.
v. 8  All these are the beginning of sorrows.
v. 9  "Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake.
v. 10  And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another.
v. 11  Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many.
v. 12   And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.
v. 13  But he who endures to the end shall be saved.
v. 14  And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

By means of the internet through the voice of Ray Smith "this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations" is being accomplished.  Preach on Ray, preach on.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

Deborah-Leigh:
LOL Randy good one but no I am not going to run! I am exactly where God has put me and if I move it has to be Him moving me!

Kat you are so right and what I see in this links up with what Bobby observed. Jesus said "these things must come to pass" so yes the trials and tribulations, price increases, inflation, electricity cut offs, fuel hikes, unemployment, retrenchments, escalating crime, legalised murders of abortion, incurable diseases etc, have to come...they will pass..."All these are the beginning of sorrows."

I agree that THIS Gospel that Jesus Christ talks about which will be preached in all the world, is not the one in Babylon but certainly IS the ONE HERE in BT.  :) That we have the Truth and the Gospel is what is so very precious midst all the lawlessness. I believe that endurance and patience by way of repentance in humility, is so necessary to the fulfilment in those whose love will not grow cold and who will overcome.

It reminds me of the teaching by Ray on repentance. For me it is so important when suffering what appears to be personal or national injustice and mindless lust for power and greed for carnality, this perception has to be taken as Gods hand in purification to humbleness and temperance to see His Sovereignty and to not cling to a false sense of security that the carnal systems of mankind present. This  for me, was so well illustrated in Rays teaching on the Twin Towers that Bobby referred to at : http://bible-truths.com/towers.htm

Ray writes quote : ...(the Christian nations...look to their wealth...for protection from their enemies....

Not only do nations do this but do not individuals also look to their wealth for protection from their enemies? Is this not the correction as wealth dissolves under the expence of inflation, ill health, injustice or unemployment? Individuals and nations have turned away from God.  They make alliances with the enemy to protect themselves and they do this with their wealth. Look at insurance companies who accumulate billions of Dollars off fear of people who pay heavy premiums for life insurance or physical or property protection. Anyone been back to New Orleans lately?

I do not believe that the world will or desires to face its illness. The Life of Christ will come and correct all and His Gospel will be preached in all the world. The joy of this is that we have the glimpse of the real Gospel of Jesus Christ right here in the teachings in BT. If I did not have this much, I seriously do not think I would have been able to come this far so far...

Peace to you sister

Arcturus :)

Matt:

--- Quote ---Experts in all fields load statistics and always seem to prefer being Politically correct instead of just plainly telling the truth.
--- End quote ---

I find this to be very true, even in the military. 
The leaders, many times, are not at fault (though they must accept responsibility).  They are often given misinformation from trusted staff and "experts", usually due to ignorance and/or pride (I always tell my people that ignorance is not a bad word, just a statement of fact).  It really helps more when people just admit they do not know something, rather than passing bad info.

In my line of work, once something is briefed to the "big cheese", it is reality and we have to deal with it, no matter how wrong or ridiculous it is (unless of course safety is an issue).

gmik:
Interesting thread!!!

That idiocy and stupidity doesn't just happen to the leaders.  It trickles down even to the neighborhood.

The Peter Principle:  the person that is absolute worse for the job, gets it!!!!  Most of us know we can do a better job than our bosses :D

The moral vacuum of our leaders is unbelievable!!!  I cannot believe that of all the great people in this country, we have to pick from this latest batch???  good grief. Who cares if our president is a woman or ethnic but why not upright, honest, moral, SMART, common sense people!!!  Ah well, God's in control so best not to worry about it!

I live about 70 miles from Detroit.  The mayor has lied under oath, used public funds for "spring vacation-type" trysts w/ someone other than wife, etc etc.  Embarrasing.  But why are these type our leaders!!!

HMMMMM>>>gena, you just said not to worry about it...>>>> Oh yeah
ok, never mind.

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