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I choose to go to hell
hillsbororiver:
Hey Martinez,
Understood! ;)
I have to ask you though to please elaborate a bit on the verses you quoted previously, sorry to say I missed your point.
His Peace to you,
Joe
phazel:
--- Quote from: steve on February 14, 2008, 04:10:26 PM ---A scripture that I am always reminded of when they start talking about hell is this.
Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?If I ascend up into heaven,thou art there:if I make my bed in hell, behold,thou art there. Psalms 139: 7-8.
Peace,
Steve
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I think that verse gives so much credibility to the proper translation being "Grave". God is in hell?
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: steve on February 14, 2008, 04:10:26 PM ---A scripture that I am always reminded of when they start talking about hell is this.
Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?If I ascend up into heaven,thou art there:if I make my bed in hell, behold,thou art there. Psalms 139: 7-8.
Peace,
Steve
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Amen Steve!
Excellent observation, according to the Christian dogma "hell is eternal separation from God" how can they make this verse fit?
Oh, that's right, it must be "out of context!" ::)
Isn't it comforting to know that even as we and our Brothers, Sisters and loved ones are "sleeping" He is still with us?
His Peace to you,
Joe
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: phazel on February 14, 2008, 04:17:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: steve on February 14, 2008, 04:10:26 PM ---A scripture that I am always reminded of when they start talking about hell is this.
Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?If I ascend up into heaven,thou art there:if I make my bed in hell, behold,thou art there. Psalms 139: 7-8.
Peace,
Steve
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I think that verse gives so much credibility to the proper translation being "Grave". God is in hell?
--- End quote ---
Yep!
So true
Psa 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell,7585 behold, thou art there.
H7585
שׁאל שׁאול
she'ôl she'ôl
sheh-ole', sheh-ole'
From H7592; hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranian retreat), including its accessories and inmates: - grave, hell, pit.
Imagine the storm if you were to stand up and quote this verse in a traditional Christian church, "hey folks, it looks like God is in hell too, maybe it isn't so hopeless after all!"
Peace,
Joe
Martinez:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on February 14, 2008, 04:11:12 PM ---Hey Martinez,
Understood! ;)
I have to ask you though to please elaborate a bit on the verses you quoted previously, sorry to say I missed your point.
His Peace to you,
Joe
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Sorry, what I mean is Christians like to come up with verses of the bible that supposedly support their belief in Hell, but quite often they cite verses that contradict other verses that supposedly support their doctrine of Hell fire.
They will say that Hell is separation from God, but they will give you Rev 14:10 to show you that the bible!
Well tell then how it is possible for someone to be eternally separated from God whilst being tortured in fire froever in fire?
I know what they would say because I've heard them say it before "with God all things are possible"
LOL!
They will also say that God doesn't send you to Hell, you choose to go there, but then in the other breath quote Rev 20:15 which shows people being thrown into the Lake of fire!
If they had chosen willingly to go there then why do they need to be thrown?
how come it doesn't talk about them marching into the Lake of fire if they chose to go willingly?
Are you with me now?
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