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Michele:

Hi everybody, I found this comment left by a poster on another website and I'd like some answers/opinions on it.  I want to say as a person who has many agnostics/atheists in my extended family that this is the types of things that they throw out about God/Bible/ and I can truthfully say I cannot blame them.  I am still yet an infant yet in my understanding but I am working on it everyday, yet I have no answers for this type of thing, none at all to my shame....do any of you?  THIS is the EXACT type of attitude that I have to live with everyday of my life as a christian from the athiests in my extended family..we don't speak outload about it hardly ever but it's definately there, the antagonism, disbelief, negative vibes and I don't know what to say.........I just don't.  I want to say these things are for some reason, but they really do just sound awful and I don't have any answers.  How can I tell them how good God's supposed to be when they read all this in the Bible?  Truthfully you can see why lots of people are "down" on believing in God when they read this stuff.  I try to not judge them at all though it's hard when you know they're poking fun at you for trying to go God's way...yet can you honestly blame them?  It's even hard for me and I'm being dragged to God so if they're not being dragged yet (or however scripture terms it) then of course these things are going to be impossible for them to deal with..it reads like a horror story.  Actually I have a twisted sense of humor and I am able to stand outside of myself and look in and see where anti-god people would find this very funny, I try to go with God and I can see the sarcastic humor in it, yet it makes me sad at the same time.  Underneath the supposed humor, the sarcasm from them is sincere.  I felt for a long time that it was my job to defend God, but I feel so small and unable.  Also to be completely honest, I don't know how I feel myself about all of these things he mentions here....not good.  ..........any helpful comments are truly appreciated.
thanks,
Michele

(Below comment quoted from another website)
"Morals. These, like laws, are created by humans and continue to this day to evolve. Things that are hideously immoral today were perfectly acceptable in the past - including in your 'perfect' bible. I hope you can bear the terrible formatting that this site subjects us to, but here's a humorous 'letter' to President Bush regarding his religious views. -----Dear President Bush, Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same %!!@ marriage. As you said "in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man a woman." I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homo!%&#xua;l lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination... End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them. 1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians? 2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her? 3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense. 4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them? 5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it? 6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homo@%##uality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination? 7. Lev.21:20 states that I may ! not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle- room here? 8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die? 9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves? 10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14) I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging"

hillsbororiver:
Hi Michele,

The world of unbelievers cannot see what you are seeing because the Lord has yet to begin to remove the scales from their eyes. It will be more profitable for you to resist debating or force feeding scriptures to them. It would be better to provide a peaceful spirit displaying patience and by being content with the situation(s) you must deal with every day.

This will draw more attention to "the reason of the hope that is in you" (Christ) than any words ever will, if you are seen living the Word rather than merely speaking the Word it will genuinely affect some of the people around you.

1Pe 3:15  But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
 
Remember until God draws a person and graces that person with His Spirit they will not, cannot see spiritual things.   

Rom 8:7  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

1Co 2:14  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

His Peace and Comfort to you,

Joe

Sorin:
Hi Michele,

I would tell him, yes, you are supposed to do all that, because we are still living about 4k yrs ago, and we are still under the Old Covenant and under the law.
 ::)

Take care,
Sorin 

musicman:
These arguments make perfect sense. . . to the people of this world.  I must say, these comments are hiliarious and I love reading them.  But who are dumber, those who think those laws are supposed to be followed today or the atheists who mock them?  And by the way, it aint our business to decide who can marry who.

Sorin:

--- Quote from: musicman on February 16, 2008, 08:51:35 AM ---These arguments make perfect sense. . . to the people of this world.
--- End quote ---

Yeah, perhaps to those who think we are still living in that time. And if they think that, then they're the ones with the mental issues. Since they can't realize that life was much different back then, than it is now. And perhaps those laws made perfect sense at the time.
Okay, maybe not all....but I can see why homosexuality would be outlawed, and or adultery, sleeping with your mom, etc...
Only the godless perverts would argue in favor of 'mammal to mammal love' and other sick behavior that godless people do, since without acknowledging there is a God, in their minds, there are no morals-there is no wrong or right, so long as you don't hurt anyone, and it's consensual. To that I say, then why should hurting anyone be wrong? Isn't that also a "man-made" law? So why should I follow it?




--- Quote from: Musicman ---I must say, these comments are hiliarious and I love reading them.
--- End quote ---

Yes it would be cute if a little child wrote them-but since I'm speculating it was written by an adult. I find it rather sad, to be honest with you. Heh.



--- Quote from: Musicman ---But who are dumber, those who think those laws are supposed to be followed today or the atheists who mock them?
--- End quote ---

The Atheists who mock them, because, they're supposed to live and let live, as they want the religious folk to do when it comes to 'same -sex marriage' and the like. So, by attacking religious folk almost religiously, they are nothing more than hypocrites! They get so worked up over people being against 'same-sex marriage' yet they do the same thing when it comes to people believing in God. They want to stop people from believing in God, just like religious folk want to stop people from marrying the same sex.



--- Quote from: Musicman ---And by the way, it aint our business to decide who can marry who.

--- End quote ---

But it is our business to define what marriage is, and what it is not. And no, I do not believe they have the right to get married. And if it were up to me, it would be outlawed!
How you like them apples?   :P

Peace,
Sorin

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