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David:
I can sure understand and identify with why these people disagree with the truths of Gods word, and Rays teaching. We were all there at some point right in Babylon believing all their lies. What I can't identify with is the vile language and hatred from people who claim to be "spirit filled" with "biblical standards" ???
Matt:
--- Quote ---I am beginning to see that there are indeed two groups. The Beast and Christ. Anything in between is in transition towards either Christ or the Beast and no one can be going in two directions at the same time. Only Christ can turn anyone into the opposite direction to Damascus!
--- End quote ---
Good point!
I have seen firsthand around the world the many vile and evil things that the Beast is capable of, (much more than just a bad temper, mean spirit, occasional drunkeness, etc... as some may see it), and I am glad that God has imparted much grace to me and many of us here. I am thankful that we have not been chosen to experience the really, really bad stuff that happens to many everyday.
:)
Matt
phazel:
--- Quote from: Matthew on February 26, 2008, 10:33:00 PM ---
--- Quote ---I am beginning to see that there are indeed two groups. The Beast and Christ. Anything in between is in transition towards either Christ or the Beast and no one can be going in two directions at the same time. Only Christ can turn anyone into the opposite direction to Damascus!
--- End quote ---
Good point!
I have seen firsthand around the world the many vile and evil things that the Beast is capable of, (much more than just a bad temper, mean spirit, occasional drunkeness, etc... as some may see it), and I am glad that God has imparted much grace to me and many of us here. I am thankful that we have not been chosen to experience the really, really bad stuff that happens to many everyday.
:)
Matt
--- End quote ---
I sort am on the other side of this equation, I have committed evil acts in my past and while I read that God forgives I sense that it is true. Forgiving myself for the things I have done is possibly something that I may never do because I still do bad things, I treat people terribly.
But, these new beliefs give me some kind of hope. In church, I could never measure up to the pride people had in their choices, never, never in a million years.
I find myself learning what it means to hate an "act" but have compassion on those who committ horrible acts.
That is a strange feeling I find myself having. It is a choice in a sense, but I know it is not of myself, no way it could be.
I finally see hope for myself that I never had.
Martinez:
Two groups, one is the chaff and the beast and the other is the wheat and the Christ!
Two groups, two mothers, one is Hagar the mother of harlots, the other is Sarah the mother of the promise and the bride.
Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Gal 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
Gal 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
Deborah-Leigh:
Hi David
Yes. A valid observation.
Their mean spirits appear are nurtured by their self justifications for being self righteous. Like the Pharisees of Christs day, when they called to Crucify Him. They too must have also felt justified yet those feelings to murder and kill were of the beast and they were deceived to think that they in any way were of service to God or approved of God. They were blind, self righteous and self justified knowing nothing of the Plan or the Will of God.
For me this is exactly like those in Babylon. They too do not know that we all will be saved. They simply do not accept Gods Word on this matter and so they manifest the fruit of the Beast and the root of their self justifications is strong and bitter.
I think the beast is the self. Christ told us to deny our selves.
Matt, I too am grateful for what the Lord has revealed and continues to be revealing to me. He also has shown me that it is truly by HIS Mercy and Grace that I have not felt or experienced, as you say, the really bad stuff. Sure, I go through chastisements and judgments that is training us in endurance and patience in righteousness but yes we are not experiencing Gods wrath. Not at all and for this we can be grateful!
Phazel
I am glad you are experiencing hope. That is something one looses through Babylon who suffocates hope by preaching hopless scenarios of most of humanity ending up in a Hell designed by God. This lie caused me to experience clinical depression. Only The Truth sets anyone free. The treatment I received for ten years helped me endure but the liberation of the trial of having clinical depression, came from The Truth! The Truth really does rescue from blindness and the grief of believing in darkness. I was given the Grace of Repentance for believing the lie and am healed.
Beautiful Words of God Martinez. The chaff will be burnt and the wheat separated.
Thank you.
Peace to you brothers
Arcturus :)
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