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phazel:


I think this can apply mainly to babylon.  Or at least to people preaching Gods word for money.   

This doesn't mean it does not take money for some things,  but Ray is willing to allow his site here to live or die before he would ever post something for the sole purpose of getting money.


If we are to see the biblical path of spirituality, are we not told that the carnal mind is not subject to the Laws of God?  So in the worlds system, the love of money is natural, our nature is already evil, so the ROOT of that EVIL cannot be money.

I am speculating on that so I do not want to come across as preaching my own ideas here.

In how I see things I have learned here,  money often is the ROOT of the survival of babylon.  Having been on the administration side of church where meeting take place wondering how to "grow" the church,  there is prayer, of course, but in the end,  the PAID leaders make the rules.

So, there is much less concern for study of biblical truth than there is how to keep the church financially able.  So the ROOT of babylons evil is money.   In my opinion.

and as always, correction is welcome.

Martinez:
Hi phazel!

Going by what the scriptures have to say, the root of all evil is the human heart or the flesh which is the same thing.

Mat 12:34  Offspring of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
Mat 12:35  The good man out of the good treasure of the heart puts forth good things. And the evil man out of the evil treasure puts forth evil things.

Mat 15:8  "This people draws near to Me with their mouth, and with their lips honor Me; but their heart holds far off from Me.
Mat 15:9  But in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men." Isa. 29:13

Mat 15:18  But the things which come out of the mouth come forth from the heart, and these defile the man.
Mat 15:19  For out of the heart come forth reasonings, evil things, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, lies, blasphemies.

Gen 6:5  And Jehovah saw that the evil of man was great on the earth, and every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the day long.

Psa 14:1  To the Overseer. --By David. A fool hath said in his heart, `God is not;' They have done corruptly, They have done abominable actions, There is not a doer of good.

Pro 20:9  Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?

Jer 17:9  The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?


That's just the tip of  the iceberg really, there is much, much more.


God bless phazel.

hillsbororiver:
Hi Phazel,

I tend to agree with you that this would be primarly directed toward the churches for the very reasons you state, total unbelievers would not be influenced or convicted by this scripture or even care to ignore it or justify themselves.

We have to remember that it is the greedy, lustful coveting of money or gain not the money in and of itself, the same president's faces appear on the donations to Bible Truths as they do on the tithes and offerings given to Babylon.

The phrase "love of money" comes from one Greek word "philarguria" which can be directly translated to "avarice."

av·a·rice insatiable greed for riches; inordinate, miserly desire to gain and hoard wealth. 

av·a·rice Immoderate desire for wealth; cupidity.

Cupidity ( a word that doesn'e seem to get tossed around very often) is another definition and synonym of avarice.

cu·pid·i·ty  covetousness, avidity, hunger, acquisitiveness

His Peace to you,

Joe

hillsbororiver:
Hi Martinez,

We were posting around the same time.  ;)

Great point(s).

Peace,

Joe

phazel:
The main reason that I made a distinction between the carnal man and church is from this verse that is specific about it.  

1Timothy 6:10 For a root of all of the evils is the fondness for money, which some, craving, were led astray from the faith and try themselves on all sides with much pain.

In many areas of what we consider evil money does not apply at all I do not think.  If a child gets raped, it is doubtful the root is money, so that would appear to be a contradiction to the above verse?


I am also going by rays teachings which is primarily towards Christianity.  Ray doesn't seem to admonish any other sect of religion in the same way because his perspective is from the bible as being the ultimate truth.

I agree with that.

If primarily,  babylon, is teaching evil,  babylon is driven by leaders wanting money.  Big congregations allow the pastors to get paid more, book sales,  multi-media, etc.


So I suppose it would be helpful in knowing how the verse above isn;t contradictory to evil that does not seem to have its roots in money.

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