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eirinikos:
Hi
Im just wondering if anyone here experiences visions, or revelations of any kind.
I currently don't, but I have had a nervous breakdown and came close to having another one a few months ago because I was trying to think too deeply about spiritual things.. so much so it freaked me out and disconnected me from every day life and I found myself so dismally depressed to the point of physical pain in my chest...
I finally realized to my benefit that the mind makes things up when we try to grasp at things that the mind can't process. On top of that, I believe I've had dark forces at work in my life. I've been renouncing every form of witchcraft I've ever become involved with, threw away all kinds of music and books, anointed my house, asked for prayer from everyone I could think of... and still had to fight with everything in me to get over the severe panic and anxiety attacks.
Not too long after I started doing that, I had a dream that my front door was being pulled open by an invisible force, and I grabbed the doorknob and was pulling back on it as hard as I could. I woke up and figured it might mean that they were trying to get back into my house.
I have always desired to have visions and spiritual revelation, but now, years after I've messed my mind up with drugs (in the past) and freaked myself all out with ideas of higher dimensions and invisible realities.. I have found myself absolutely terrified of the whole concept.
So.. Im wondering what anyone else has to say about it.
Martinez:
I don't think God will give you those things until He gets you cleaned up first.
It is God who has bought you to this place and God who will take you out of it so then you will know that it is by His power and not your own that you have these dreams and revelations.
If He gave them to you now, what would you do with them?
Can you see what I'm saying here?
musicman:
If you were taking the kinds of drugs that it sounds like, no wonder you had these visions. I'm not judging but I think it's best that you stay the course of detox. Desire to know truth, only.
eirinikos:
I never had "visions" on drugs.. just mind bending delusion. I have not used drugs in a long time. I just mentioned that in the past I had some bad experiences with them when I was not seeking God, but I have since denounced all that stuff.
The subtle effect they have on the psyche, however, lingers on and on.
And you're right, I know I'm in the middle of a cleaning phase.
I didn't start the thread to talk about drugs and how they're bad.. I just mentioned that its a stain on my past. I'm more interested in what people here are experiencing in God.
David:
The only supernatural experience I can say I have ever had is receiving the Holy Spirit. This was by no means a physical experience. I've seen many people both in the flesh and on TV convulsing on the floor, running around like a headless chicken making strange noises, babbling in unintelligible language etc, all claiming to have received the Holy spirit. I believe in my heart that the vast majority of these physical outward exhibitions are totally fraudulent at best, and utterly wicked in intent and nature.
I would describe my experience as nothing physical, and nothing that I even perceived straight away. There just comes a time when you just know the truth of God, and begin to unravel the mysteries of His Word, and are able to separate the truth from lies. It happens in very small increments, only when God is ready to reveal His truth to us.
I would say that what you have experienced is the medical/chemical effects of drug abuse, and exposure to influential material that can easily pervert even the most resistant to such things.
Jesus Christ told us to pray that God "Not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from evil" for a reason. Christ knows the hearts and minds of men better than any of us know ourselves. He knows that we cannot resist temptation or evil without Him, its impossible.
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