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Husbands and Wives
rjsurfs:
Hi Sampson and all,
I like this verse:
2 Peter 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
So through him we are given guidance in all things such as these to live.
Regarding being equally yoked or not however, remember that we were unequally yoked with Christ but he was able to fulfil his role flawlessly... another example he gives us that our role as husband is independent... not contingent on the behaviour of the wife.
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Instead of searching your concordances for instances of "husband" or "wife" you may just want to study "church" and "Christ"... there are hundreds of examples of the relationship with Christ and the church for us to pattern our marriages after.
Bobby
Samson:
Hello Arcturus, Phil.3:10, Bradigans & Bobby Proctor,
You guys are not going to believe this, I was working on a Post reply that would have been before Bobby Proctor and when I went to enter it, it disappeared somewhere, probably went to another Galaxy, I wrote four paragraphs, commenting on a few things, now I'm tired and will only touch on a few.
Arcturus is right regarding its' easier for a Wife to be Submissive to a Husband thats' Loving and I might add have respect(Ephesians. 5:33b) for that Husband. Now I'm referring to those who at least try to apply these Scriptures, those that don't like the example Bradigans mentioned wouldn't be applicable to them. Its' also easier for a man to Love his Wife, when she lets' him be a Man and its' easier for a Woman to have respect for her Husband, if he truly Loves her. My wife is a SMART WOMAN, because she allows me to take the lead and is a great complement and helper(Gen.2:18) and doesn't compete with me. As a result of this, SHE USUALLY GETS EVERYTHING SHE WANTS & MORE, I was taught in the past to give into your wife, as long as it doesn't violate Bible Principles, ones conscience or is a detriment to the welfare of the family. This can and unfortunately does, lead to a vicious cycle manifested in " I'll give you respect, when you give me love and vice versa".
Phil. 3:10 mentions Women being stronger, I agree with them usually being Emotionally stronger relating to dealing with peoples' nonsense, being more tolerant and patient, being better equipped at Public and Family Relations. Women are better at multi-tasking and men better at focusing intently on one thing(The Venus & Mars Syndrome). A Woman once told me that a Man is better off thinking first and emotionally second, when confronted with problems, otherwise he does very poorly and gets himself in trouble, whereas a Women can do both without saying something she might regret, I think she was referring mostly to personal relationships. And I'm certainly not the perfect Husband, although I try my best, only with Gods' help can this be accomplished.
Bradigans mentioned leading by example, thats' definetely true and if we are Harsh with our Wives, our prayers will be hindered(1Peter. 3:7b).
In conclusion again(because I lost my last Post), I'm convinced that God is training and purifying me in this area, due to my failures of the past, hopefully I'll get it right this time or I'll end up worse off than the Real Samson. Fortunately for me(this time), it seems I have my Soul-mate, compatible or evenly yoked in most areas, except the bible interest, but thats' okay. Once I was married to someone who shared the same beliefs, but we were incompatible in many other ways, leading to my demise.
Yes, Bobby Proctor, its' true, it shouldn't be contigent on Our Wife's or Husband's behavior, for that matter. Both parties have a difficult task at best, a Husbands Spiritual Head is The Christ(Perfect Example) and a Wife's Spiritual Head is a Man(someone imperfect to follow); 1Cor.11:3.
Thanks to all of you for your fine comments and assistance in this most crucial area.
Your Brother in Christ, Samson.
Phil3:10:
Arcturus, Bradigans, Samson and Bobby Proctor
I am far from the perfect husband but try daily to work on getting a little better. So much of this is the result of my maturation ,and a closer walk with GOD. I only wish GOD would give us at the age of 25 the maturity we generally have at age 50. Wisdom and knowledge are such special qualities and I feel our experiences with evil and foolishness are our LORD'S way to prepare us for a closer walk with HIM.
Bradigans, I have had the same thing happen to me in the past regarding posting. I so agree with the example part, especially with your children. We can fool adults often but our children are very discerning.
Bobby, your example of CHRIST and HIS called out is so very appropriate in a discussion of the husband and wife relationship. CHRIST did it all for us. We need do the same for HIM. Love is the key, real, true, and honorable love.
Proverbs 31:10 is one of my favorite verses, "Who can find a virtuous woman? For her price is far above rubies." The whole chapter is a real testimony to the help mate we all need and desire. Samson thanks for starting this post as it is so very important.
In HIM,
Phil3:10
Deborah-Leigh:
You brothers make me feel so precious!
Sampson...when you loose your post, just click on Ctrl Z and it will reappear! :)
Bradigans:
--- Quote from: Samson on March 02, 2008, 08:24:48 AM ---Hello Arcturus, Phil.3:10, Bradigans & Bobby Proctor,
Thanks to all of you for your fine comments and assistance in this most crucial area.
Your Brother in Christ, Samson.
--- End quote ---
Arcturus is right regarding its' easier for a Wife to be Submissive to a Husband thats' Loving and I might add have respect(Ephesians. 5:33b) for that Husband.
In Christ, is there any other type of husband besides that which is loving and respectful?
- 1 John 4:16 - And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Its' also easier for a man to Love his Wife, when she lets' him be a Man and its' easier for a Woman to have respect for her Husband, if he truly Loves her.
Let me be a man? In Christ, God ordained through THE SPIRIT that i am a man just as much as IN CHRIST, she (my wife) through The Spirit is ordained to be a woman. You don't have to try to do or be anything when you've got His Spirit besides rest in faith (Hebrews 4:11).
- John 6:63 - It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Now I'm referring to those who at least try to apply these Scriptures, those that don't like the example Bradigans mentioned wouldn't be applicable to them.
You can't apply these scriptures. It's THE HOLY SPIRIT that has to apply these precepts to your heart and life.
- Romans 8:7 - Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Phil. 3:10 mentions Women being stronger, I agree with them usually being Emotionally stronger relating to dealing with peoples' nonsense, being more tolerant and patient, being better equipped at Public and Family Relations.
It's not about being stronger or weaker when you're a unit, because through THE SPIRIT, you're the same person.
- 1 Peter 3:8 - Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
In conclusion again(because I lost my last Post), I'm convinced that God is training and purifying me in this area, due to my failures of the past, hopefully I'll get it right this time or I'll end up worse off than the Real Samson. Fortunately for me(this time), it seems I have my Soul-mate, compatible or evenly yoked in most areas, except the bible interest, but thats' okay. Once I was married to someone who shared the same beliefs, but we were incompatible in many other ways, leading to my demise.
Go at it this time realizing that neither of you can get it right outside of Christ THE WORD. Both need to be in THE WORD (2 Corinthians 6:14).
- John 15:5 - I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Yes, Bobby Proctor, its' true, it shouldn't be contigent on Our Wife's or Husband's behavior, for that matter. Both parties have a difficult task at best, a Husbands Spiritual Head is The Christ(Perfect Example) and a Wife's Spiritual Head is a Man(someone imperfect to follow); 1Cor.11:3.
Nothings difficult in Christ. He makes burdens light. I'm amazed.
- Matthew 11:28-30 - Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
The only time things seem difficult and overwhelming is when we get into self. We have to remind ourselves sometimes that without Him, we can't do anything.
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