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Dante:
Hey lilitalienboi16. I tend to think you and I are cut from the same cloth. I also, am Italian, and a very emotional one (Can you imagine that with a name like Dante, and on top of that my middle name is Salvatore,.....LOL!).
On the one hand I want to grab these people and shake them and say, "What the heck is wrong with you, you idiots!!!!"
And on the other I want to grab them and spiritually hug them and say, "Stop being deceived you poor, poor ignorant fools"!!!
But you know what bud? We have to remember, and this is something that I have to KEEP reminding myself of EVERY DAY, that this also, is God's plan. They are being "Given over" for a reason. It is all within God's purpose.
Some days I get up and I feel like my head is on FIRE when I see things like this. And then I have to sit back and take a deep breath (As you said) and just understand that that is the way it is and that is the way God wants it right now.
The way I TRY TO LOOK AT IT NOW. Is that it is a GOOD opportunity to pick apart the theology!!!!
As in the way you and others have done SO WELL, here on these pages! David makes some excellent points, Dennis Vogel made some excellent points. Think of the folly and TRY NOT TO GET UPSET. Just pick apart their argument in your mind and put it down on these and other pages if you feel the need.
Use their outlandish, horrible, putrid theology and just shoot holes in it.
I like to e-mail these people from time to time with the Word of God (In a nice and respectful way of course) and tell them how ridiculous there ideas are.
Sometimes this makes me feel better.
I hear you brother,... and I feel your pain. And I see that you are taking control. I just wanted to give you a bit of encouragement. It is what I need A LOT OF ALSO!!
Dante
ellie77:
Well,the only place I think hell exists is in the horror of their own minds..........
musicman:
Has anybody noticed the contrasts between this ridiculous video and the Lazarus parable? I mention this because christiandom always uses that parable to prove that the unrighteous will be conciously tortured in fire for all eternity. First of all, this kid received a letter from hell. Abraham said "between us and you a great chasm has been established, so that those wanting to cross hence to you may not be able, nor yet thense may be ferrying to us". So how did he receive a letter. And what followed this statement by Abraham? The rich man is asking that someone warn his five brothers of this awful place. "No, father Abraham, but if someone should be going to them from the dead, they will be repenting. But in this idiot video the kid's last wishes in his letter is "Wish you were here". Now I hate to nitpick. It's obvious that this guy knows is churchian theology, but he needs to study the details. First off, the churchian usually has Lazarus representing the mind set of all those in hell. Here, the kid wanted his friend to join him. I'll add that there's no mention of worms, nashing of teeth, or of the different chambers that most churchians speak of. There might be something real with that holding cell, however. I'm thinking that judgement might involve for these hell teachers, a concious awareness and belief that they are headed for such an awful place. Somehow they are going to reap what they sow. The relief they will receive once they learn the truth will be profound.
By the way, that was the most disgusting display of god hate that I've ever heard. Hollywood should make a movie out of it.
phazel:
Wow, the first few minutes of that nauseated me, I might try to look at it some other time.
But maybe there is no point in doing so now.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Dante on March 11, 2008, 06:14:06 AM ---Hey lilitalienboi16. I tend to think you and I are cut from the same cloth. I also, am Italian, and a very emotional one (Can you imagine that with a name like Dante, and on top of that my middle name is Salvatore,.....LOL!).
On the one hand I want to grab these people and shake them and say, "What the heck is wrong with you, you idiots!!!!"
And on the other I want to grab them and spiritually hug them and say, "Stop being deceived you poor, poor ignorant fools"!!!
But you know what bud? We have to remember, and this is something that I have to KEEP reminding myself of EVERY DAY, that this also, is God's plan. They are being "Given over" for a reason. It is all within God's purpose.
Some days I get up and I feel like my head is on FIRE when I see things like this. And then I have to sit back and take a deep breath (As you said) and just understand that that is the way it is and that is the way God wants it right now.
The way I TRY TO LOOK AT IT NOW. Is that it is a GOOD opportunity to pick apart the theology!!!!
As in the way you and others have done SO WELL, here on these pages! David makes some excellent points, Dennis Vogel made some excellent points. Think of the folly and TRY NOT TO GET UPSET. Just pick apart their argument in your mind and put it down on these and other pages if you feel the need.
Use their outlandish, horrible, putrid theology and just shoot holes in it.
I like to e-mail these people from time to time with the Word of God (In a nice and respectful way of course) and tell them how ridiculous there ideas are.
Sometimes this makes me feel better.
I hear you brother,... and I feel your pain. And I see that you are taking control. I just wanted to give you a bit of encouragement. It is what I need A LOT OF ALSO!!
Dante
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Thank you dante for your words. I try and remind myself everyday of exactly what you have said. God is controle, it is all in His hands and they are given over for it is his plan so that ultimately hey may bring about His WILL. What a marvelous day it will be and truly all those who have spoken this and blasphemed God's name among the nations will UTTERLY MOURNE AND REPENT for there heresy.
I thank God He never let me stumble into that kind of darkness, thank you Father! I know it is all Him, so i will with prayer and through Christ's strength attempt my best to have patience with these teachings of theirs and with those whom preach these things.
Lord have mercy on me!
God bless,
Alex
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