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Just one more question.
woops:
Wow, thanks again.
I could really use an easy to read guide to the truth.
eggi:
Woops,
I think that we should take care of our bodies, but as Arcturus pointed out: What is the body?
There is also this scripture:
For bodily exercise profiteth little (it does profit!): but godliness is profitable unto all things. (1st Timothy 4:8)
Take a look at these commentaries as well:
Geneva Study Bible
{12} For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come.
(12) Godliness consists in spiritual exercise, and not in outward strictness of life, which though it is something to be esteemed, if it is used correctly, yet it is in no way comparable with godliness. For it profits not in and of itself, but through the benefit of another; but godliness has the promise both of the present life, and of that which is to come.
People's New Testament
4:8 For bodily exercise profiteth little. The Greeks gave great attention to bodily training. At Ephesus, where Timothy was, may still be seen the remains of the stadium where the athletes displayed their skill. Let Christians display the same assiduity in training for godliness.
Godliness is profitable in all things. Godly training makes men happier, more prosperous, more healthy here, and in addition it prepares them for the life to come. The way to reach heaven is not either to starve or to exercise the body.
Wesley's Notes
4:8 Bodily exercise profiteth a little - Increases the health and strength of the body.
King James Translators' Notes
little: or, for a little time
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
8. profiteth little-Greek, "profiteth to (but) a small extent." Paul does not deny that fasting and abstinence from conjugal intercourse for a time, with a view to reaching the inward man through the outward, do profit somewhat, Ac 13:3; 1Co 7:5, 7; 9:26, 27 (though in its degenerate form, asceticism, dwelling solely on what is outward, 1Ti 4:3, is not only not profitable but injurious). Timothy seems to have had a leaning to such outward self-discipline (compare 1Ti 5:23). Paul, therefore, while not disapproving of this in its due proportion and place, shows the vast superiority of godliness or piety, as being profitable not merely "to a small extent," but unto all things; for, having its seat within, it extends thence to the whole outward life of a man. Not unto one portion only of his being, but to every portion of it, bodily and spiritual, temporal and eternal [Alford]. "He who has piety (which is 'profitable unto all things') wants nothing needed to his well-being, even though he be without those helps which, 'to a small extent,' bodily exercise furnishes" [Calvin]. "Piety," which is the end for which thou art to "exercise thyself" (1Ti 4:7), is the essential thing: the means are secondary.
having promise, &c.-Translate as Greek, "Having promise of life, that which now is, and that which is to come." "Life" in its truest and best sense now and hereafter (2Ti 1:1). Length of life now so far as it is really good for the believer; life in its truest enjoyments and employments now, and life blessed and eternal hereafter (Mt 6:33; Mr 10:29, 30). "Now in this time" (Ps 84:11; 112:1-10; Ro 8:28; 1Co 3:21, 22, "all things are yours . the world, life . things present, things to come"). Christianity, which seems to aim only at our happiness hereafter, effectually promotes it here (1Ti 6:6; 2Pe 1:3). Compare Solomon's prayer and the answer (1Ki 3:7-13).
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
4:6-10 Outward acts of self-denial profit little. What will it avail us to mortify the body, if we do not mortify sin? No diligence in mere outward things could be of much use. The gain of godliness lies much in the promise; and the promises to godly people relate partly to the life that now is, but especially to the life which is to come: though we lose for Christ, we shall not lose by him. If Christ be thus the Saviour of all men, then much more will he be the Rewarder of those who seek and serve him; he will provide well for those whom he has made new creatures.
God bless you,
Eirik
joyful1:
Hi woops!
I've been thinking about the same thing that Acturus was thinking about, and that is; what IS the body?
Romans 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
I Corinthians 10:17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
I've always thought of "my body" as MY body! (Honour God in your body.)
But now I am beginning to recognise "my body" as the ONE and ONLY BODY!
Or HIS BODY! Which is made up of MANY members....from around the world throughout this age.
Do you get what I am saying?
We are ALL ONE in Christ Jesus!
So honouring God in "my body," or "THE BODY" is a spiritual thing...not necessarily a physical thing. I can honour God many ways in the body....and one way is by honouring the OTHER members of MY BODY, which is God's because He OWNS it!
Indeed, the bridegroom offers a dowry (purchase price) for the bride.
When she "drinks from the cup" she agrees to the purchase price.
Then the "two shall become one."
Just my thoughts....
Joyce :)
acomplishedartis:
--- Quote from: Arcturus on March 14, 2008, 01:34:01 PM ---
Flesh and blood will not inherit the Kingdom of God which is within. We are vessels made of clay (flesh and blood). For me, our spiritual body is not clay but is made up of our motives, thoughts and desires. This shows the condition of our heart, who we are and how we act and why we do things the way we do things which expresses our spiritual body.
Arcturus
--- End quote ---
Arcturus i am with you. I don't think neither this verse talk about our physical body.
There is people in pour countries who would never be able to honour God with their bodys.
I think This verse is used by religious people who want to imput their healthy prosperity gospel where everyone must be happy and everything is color soft pink.
colibri:
This is my first post and I am just going to say that sometimes Scripture has more than one meaning. I think it is important to take care of our physical body because it is a gift of God and while on earth it helps us to do God's work. But the most important is our spiritual body where the Holy Spirit dwells.
I also found it interesting that the body could mean the Body of Christ, which is the church (those called out)
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