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All hell believers guilty of gambling
phazel:
Every time they choose of their own free will to have a child, they gamble with its soul.
Beloved:
God gives them the desire to have children. They have no control over anyone's soul including their childrens, they do not even control their own because God is the only one who does.
The point you are trying to make may have some spiritual connotation in that : if their children do not follow the manmade doctrines that they themselves follow, it will cause them to be anxious and feel guilty. If they do follow them, then they will feel the same in the second judgement.
They know not what they do some times. The carnal man is delusional and thinks too much of man himself that it on the throne.
beloved
Sorin:
--- Quote from: phazel on March 14, 2008, 10:39:38 AM ---Every time they choose of their own free will to have a child, they gamble with its soul.
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Exactly! At least in their minds they do so; since they are firm believers in free-will and free moral agency and therefore an Unsovereign God. So it's up to the kids to save themselves--you got to be your own savior. Jesus "ain't gonna save ya"...sure He died for the sins of the world, but you have to choose Him. He does not choose you--He just died so that whoever randomly decides to believe in Him will be saved. Why He doesn't even know who will and will not be saved because we all have free will and therefore nothing in God's knowledge of the future is set in stone, because that would mean that it has to happen the way He knows it will, and that would be bad news for free-will.
Why can't Christians see that this is what they believe--even though they won't acknowledge it?
SandyFla:
--- Quote from: phazel on March 14, 2008, 10:39:38 AM ---Every time they choose of their own free will to have a child, they gamble with its soul.
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When I was in Bible College, one of my professors said she and her husband debated for years about having children because of the possibility of them going to hell. She said they spoke to a minister, who told them that if they raised a "child in the way he should go, when he is old, he will not depart from it." That gave them OK to have 2 children. ... But, if you think about it, that would also dictate that the children themselves have no free will! Because they were raised right, they won't (can't) depart from that "right" way.
Craig:
Uugh christian doctrine is so asinine. ???
Craig
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