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lilitalienboi16:

--- Quote from: Jason on March 22, 2008, 05:25:23 PM ---Let's look at this verse:

Joh 2:19  Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I [Jesus?] will raise it up.

Am I missing something in this verse, or the Scripture.  I know that it wasn't Jesus raising Himself, but it was our Father.  Why does this verse phrase it like this?  Am I missing something with the language?

Thanks!

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Hmm interesting question Jason. Perhaps you could email ray on this one?

If i were to venture on this i would say that... The Father did raise Jesus but it's because it is the Father who gave Jesus the ability to raise Himself? Much like the Father did Create the heavens and the earth but so did Jesus because it came out of the Father and through Jesus. Make sence? I'm only guessing, i suppose.

Looking forward to seeing what others have to say about this.

God bless,

Alex

jerreye:
I know it says:

Matt 28:18
"ALL power is given unto Me (Jesus) in heaven and on earth"

But, it also says:

John 14:10
"Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak NOT of myself: but the FATHER that dwelleth in me, HE (the Father) DOETH (in actuality) the works."

Perhaps in here lies the answer?

Chris R:
Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;) [Gal 1:1]

Jesus Christ did not raise himself from the dead, He was actually DEAD.

As Paul has stated, it was the Father who raised him from the dead.

Perhaps the foillowing verse could shed some light on the verse in question.


 Mat 26:53  Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels? But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?

Having the power to do these things is one thing, But following the will of His Father is what he did.

Best i can explain it

Chris R

Samson:
Hello Everyone,


                     It also says in Acts. 2:24,27,31,32; (" But God resurrected him by loosing the pangs of death, because it was not possible for him to continue to be held fast by it, verse 27 says: " because you will not leave my soul in Hades, neither will you allow your loyal one to see corruption; Verse 31 & 32: " he saw beforehand and spoke concerning the resurrection of the Christ, that neither was he foresaken in Hades nor did his flesh see corruption.  This JESUS GOD RESURRECTED of which fact we are all witnesses").

                   The above Scripture, plus the one Chris mentioned in his Post(Gal.1:1) clarifies that his Father resurrected him(Jesus). As Chris pointed out, Jesus was dead. He was dead for the better part of three days(not totaling 72 hours), but parts of three days.

                   Unless I stand corrected, Trinitarians love that Scripture at John. 2:19, trying to prove that he wasn't actually dead and didn't need The Father to raise him. Just like Jonah being in the belly of the Whale or big fish for three days, if the Whale hadn't spewed him out, the digestive juices would have killed him and it would have been his grave.

                 Hopefully I didn't veer too far with this, an interesting and appropriate post, considering that most of Christendom is thinking about the anniversary of Christ's resurrection.

                                      Your Brother in Christ, Samson.

                 

psalmsinger:
I suppose I have had a week to think on these things concering the resurrection of Jesus Christ:)  At a funeral last Saturday, a primitive Baptist elder made the comment that there is only one in heaven with a "human body", everyone else, whom "God loves" is spirit, awaiting resurrection of the "body".  ???   Sometimes "church speak" stimulates my thinking. So I'm thinking and looking up scriptures about about spirit vs. flesh and the resurrection.   He stated this in one of His appearances:

Luke 24:39
39   Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Of course we are being told about a Glorified, immortal, incorruptible "body", and Jesus, as God, can appear in any way He sees fit.  In my tiny mind, that is the only explanation I can think of.  It is marvelous, the resurrection. Fascinating!   After His resurrection, no one knew Him by sight....it was the sound of His voice and the connection to His Spirit that brought that fact into revelation. After all, His sheep know His Voice and His Spirit.

In John's account of the resurrection, Jesus  breathed on the disciples and said "receive ye the Holy Ghost".  I am assuming since He spoke, it was done.  Evidently, He had the power to impart the Holy Spirit after His resurrection and "ascending" to the Father, while he was still on the earth.  Or is this a spurious scripture.  I haven't looked.


John 20:22
22   And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
(KJV)

John 14:26
26   But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(KJV)



Wishing you all rest in the blessed hope of the resurrection,

Barbara


--- Quote from: truthistforjesus on March 22, 2008, 07:27:33 PM ---The most important aspect of this verse is that the Father gave him the command.  The temple he is speaking of is the 'invisible' kingdom of heaven.  When he died we forever received the Comforter.  Jesus' eternal spirit alive on earth!

Love
TFJ

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