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Chris R:
Actually count it as a blessing, I get that "look" all the time. My Dad, although i believe he has found some truth..doesnt even like discussing it anymore. My brother just walks the other way. My wife has a different opinion about everything. My mother still sends me e-mails from babylon.

I take it all in stride...I cant MAKE anyone believe anything, i dont even try. However if i am confronted with heresy...I tend to get a little angry.

Chris R

SandyFla:
I can understand what you're going through.

My dad doesn't say much, but my mom talks about people going to hell. When I've tried to show her that creating such a place as hell is against God's nature and would make Him a monster worse than Hitler or Hussein (who eventually killed their victims rather than torturing them endlessly), she says I am "downing" God; i.e., insulting Him. I try to tell her that I don't believe He is that evil and she does, so she is the one who is downing Him. But she just can't see it. So I let her talk and just pray for her. There's nothing else I can do.

Sandy

hummer:
Hi Margues: I too feel for you in what you are enduring. Matthew 10:36 has reminded me of my own experience with dealing with family, a race of endurance, then quickly the verse quickly took me back to the days of Joseph and Job and the pain they felt.

Job 19:13-19 (NASB) "He has removed my brothers far from me, and my acquaintances are completely estranged from me. 14 "My relatives have failed, and my intimate friends have forgotten me. 15 "Those who live in my house and my maids consider me a stranger. I am a foreigner in their sight. 16 "I call to my servant but he does not answer; I have to implore him with my mouth. 17 "My breath is offensive to my wife, and I am loathsome to my own brothers. 18 "Even young children despise; I rise up and they speak against me.

Genesis explains Joseph's plight.

I encourage everyone keep going forward and don't quit

Matthew 24:13 "But the one who endures to the end, will be saved.

Matthew 10:22 "You will be hated by all because of My name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved.

Luke 8:15 "But the seed in the good soil, these are the ones who have heard the word in an honest and good heart, and hold it fast, and bear fruit with perseverance.

Romans 2:7 to those indeed who by endurance in goods acts are seeking glory and honor and incorruption life eonian

Hebrews 3:6 Yet Christ as a Son over His house--whose house we are, that is, if we should be retaining the boldness and the glorying of the expectations confirmed unto the commsummation.

Hebrews 10:39 Yet we are not of those shrinking back to destruction, but of faith for the procuring of the soul.

Revelation 2:10 Fear nothing....

joyful1:
:) Amen, hummer, amen!
Joyce :)

Dante:
I guess I am Kind of Lucky in this way.
My mom cannot take it in her heart that God would do that to any of his creations.
My wife is pretty much of the same thought. Most of my family reject the thought of God doing that to anyone. My mom told me that my grandmother always said that hell is here on earth. And in a way she was correct since we have fiery trials on earth. NOT that there is any Hell, but I think you kind of get what I am saying.

As to the other issue. I used to "Church hop" when I was single after becoming a "Born Again" believer. My Mom is Catholic and I used to go with her from time to time. But then I had my own Christian Church that I would Go to on a regular basis. Then there was a problem with that church and it's pastor. I didn't want to get mixed up in the scandal and it's politics. So I found another church.

When I got married (My wife being a Catholic in name only) , I ended up going to Catholic Church once again.
The same one in fact, that I attended from my childhood. I, My wife, mother and son all went to church there every Sunday.

After coming to the realization about the falsehood of Hell. I felt a little funny about attending the Catholic church, but what I felt more uncomfortable about  was giving money to them.

SO,...to make a long story short. I still go there most every Sunday with my family. But we sit in the Cry Room. It is there that we listen to the Gospel of Christ, but I ignore the rest. Most of it is watered down kneeling and sitting and standing. They don't do much other than sing slow, slow songs anyway. And we have formed a bond with the other parents in the room. We talk and share our love for our children, we wish each other well and that kind of thing. But there isn't much Dogma spoken or heard. The speaker in the room really stinks, so you cannot really hear the mass anyway.

And I don't really feel God tugging on my heart to get out of there.
I have solved the problem of the "Money Issue" by putting all that I have in the poor box, which goes only to the Poor and is in no way helping the church itself.

I am now starting to formulate a plan to find a way to get the money to the poor on my own terms.
I plan on finding a part of town where the homeless hang out (Which is not hard), and just hand the first person I see the sum of money that I have in mind. And then just drive away.

I know that many may not agree with my methods, but until God moves on my heart, I do not feel the need to do things any other way.

I read the Word of God on a regular basis. I visit this and other sites of like mind often and I contemplate the word of God almost CONSTANTLY. My wife gets sick of hearing my theories of God at times. She wouldn't admit it, but I can tell she does. I cannot really blame her, the poor things is trying to watch TV and all of a sudden, I come bursting into the room and yell, "Hey Honey,...listen to this,..what if God,....Etc,..Etc,...!

Well, that probably was not a help to anyone, but I felt the need to share.
I will be praying for you mharrell08 and your situation.
God will see you through all this and as Ray says as he quotes the scriptures: "This to shall pass".
God bless, and I will keep you in my prayers. I promise!!

Dante

PS This may be a bit of peace to you though.
I get hammered on a regular basis with proposals to go church with friends of mine.
They tell me that their church is AWESOME and how wonderful their Pastor is, and I have to state the whole "Deal" as to why I do not wish to attend their church and how I feel that they are in error.
Sometimes they understand and sometimes it seems as thought their nose gets pushed out of joint.
What are you going to do,.. Ya know.
This is your life. Do with it as you will, not as someone else states that you should. Follow your heart always in love and you cannot go wrong.
I think that your problem stems much from Geography (As you stated). Here in the Northeast, MOST people go to church because it gives them something to do as a family (It only lasts about 45 minutes anyway). After that Most go out to eat and then home to watch the football games or whatever. Church around here is more a social event than a way of life. Not many people listen to the mass anyway. Go figure!

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