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Saturn's Moon: Enceladus
Kat:
Hi Sorin,
I do enjoy looking at the stars and seeing what the Hubble telescope finds out there. I think that if you pay attention to the scientific evidence a lot of the things about creation come into better focus. Real science supports the Truth.
I just happen to believe there is no other life in the universe and there is no scientific evidence otherwise.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Sorin:
--- Quote from: Kat on March 27, 2008, 07:58:46 AM ---
Hi Sorin,
I do enjoy looking at the stars and seeing what the Hubble telescope finds out there. I think that if you pay attention to the scientific evidence a lot of the things about creation come into better focus. Real science supports the Truth.
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Kat,
What is The Truth? That an almighty Creator created this universe, and all life, but only here on earth, because He sent His only Son to die for our sins, not Martians' sins, etc...
Yet you haven't any proof to support it. Yet in that 2012 thread, everybody had the gall to ask for evidence, as if they would never believe in anything without evidence. Am I the only one who sees the irony in that?
And that other one had the gall to imply that I can't prove what I am talking about. As if I were speaking of some religion without proof
or at least weird coincidences to it.
The Mayans studied the cosmos, they knew the Sun will be perfectly aligned, scientists had concurred. What more proof do you need?
The kind that you have, that Jesus rose from the dead? That kind of proof?
O the gall on that guy!
--- Quote ---I just happen to believe there is no other life in the universe and there is no scientific evidence otherwise.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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That's cool, you can believe what you want. Though we do know, that if you follow the water, you will eventually find life. And beneath Mars' polar ice caps, there is good evidence to suggest that there may be at least microbial life there. And Scientists are excited about Enceladus too. :)
Kat:
Hi Sorin,
I am trying to base my understanding of things on the belief that there is God and He is the Creator and is working out a plan. Now my final source for Truth is Scripture, the original writings not Bibles so much.
I believe that the Truth has only been revealed to a few and so in my estimation that leaves out most scientist. If they reveal from the evidence what they find, then I think it is good info. But I think a lot of them have agendas, like trying to make things fit according to their idea of evolution. So I think they believe if life managed to get started here on earth according to the idea of evolution, then it probably is somewhere else out there too. That is not the way I think on this.
I showed you the Scriptures as to why I believe that the earth is the only planet with life on it.
I don't discount that the Mayans were able to learn about planetary movement in some way. These were intelligent people. What I found was they have calendars with hundreds of celestial/terrestrial cycles which they observed and inscribed as separate calendars (all of infinite duration). And they actually show a transits of Venus crossing the Sun and this is among the rarest of planetary alignments.
The date December 21st, 2012 A.D. (13.0.0.0.0 in the Long Count), represents an extremely close conjunction of the Winter Solstice Sun with the crossing point of the Galactic Equator (Equator of the Milky Way) and the Ecliptic (path of the Sun), what that ancient Maya recognized as the Sacred Tree. But this was a part of their pagan religion. They did not know the Truth of this creation, they did have accurate evidence of some planetary cycles, but they didn't know what to do with it.
The Maya priest had the job of interpreting these cycles and giving a prophetic outlook on the future or past based on the number relations of all their calendars. If the interpretations of the priests spelled bad times to come, sacrifices would be performed to change the moods of the gods. Sacrifices might be small animals like chickens, or "bloodletting" by high officials, and sometimes included human sacrifices. They would engage in rituals such as cutting their own ears, tongues, and penises with the intention of satisfying the gods. (Wikipedia)
So they had knowledge, but not understanding of how to use it.
I hope you see this as a discussion of our thoughts on these matters and not a debate, even though we may disagree some. I think it's just nice to share these matters that we have similar interest in :)
mercy, peace and love
Kat
lilitalienboi16:
I concur with you kat.
I Just wanted to add to this discusion that the discovery of a geyser on this moon' surface does not suddenly mean their is life on that planet. It's wonderful that scientists can observe such things from our planet, infact i am currently studying to be a doctor and will have to undertake a heavy amount of science. However that doesn't mean that i should loose focus of the prize or the understanding God has given me because science is capable of exploreing and explaining this natural world around us. Likewise, with this discovery does not come the fact that their exists life on this moon as well.
That has yet to be proven and evidence to be shown. Much like evolution remains a theory yet to be proven and evidence to be shown. I will learn much more about evolution as i delve deeper into these sciences due to the requirements for my pre-med bachelor's degree, but i am prepared and look at it as a chance to better educate myself on a popular theory which many people embrace. I know with God on my side i can see past this delusion and strengthan my understanding of it to be better prepared to give an answer for the hope that lies within me.
God be with you,
Alex
Craig:
--- Quote ---Though we do know, that if you follow the water, you will eventually find life.
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I sometimes think (that is not a joke :D) I think of all the people who ever lived, estimates are 100 Billion and all the Galaxies (not planets, but galaxies) estimated at 200 billion. Jesus is preparing a place for us, what if one of those billions of galaxies has our name on it. If they are being prepared then water underneath the crusts of some of these planets are just setting there waiting for someone to tap them and for them to spring forth life. Maybe we are the someone?
Craig
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