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Craig:

--- Quote ---The miracle is readily available in the form of insulin (I think that's what they use).  Are there better ways?  Probably.
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The young girl was type 1 diabetic, there are no better ways, yet.  80-90 years ago insulin was discovered and has saved many many lives. 

Now days it seems like the new drugs treat symptoms rather than provide cures.  No money in cures, tons in treatments.

Craig

Linny:
Wow, lots of comments to comment on. ;)
First, most childhood diabetes in my opinion and from what I have been studying is due to the many poisons in the ridiculous number of vaccines that children are taking these days. This is why I say it is preventable. Add to that the high fructose corn syrup in the formula that most children ingest, some from birth, being fed grains from about 2 months, dead food in a jar, and you can see that the pancreas would be in trouble early on.

When I was a child, the number of vaccines were about 4x less I believe. I'd say the known carcinogens like formaldehyde and the monkey DNA being injected in our kids has quite a bit to do with all the new diseases kids today deal with that my generation did not.

But don't even try to get me to argue about vaccines with you guys that have your feet firmly planted in the medical world. It is a waste of our time. Just do your own research and if you'd like names of some great books written by medical researchers and Pediatricians (whose opinions you seem to value), I'd be happy to pass them on to you to do your research before arguing. I have studied ALL sides for 15 years and spent 6 years working in a hospital and also went to nursing school.

Dewey, you apparently didn't read my post thoroughly. I never said that I relied on prayer only for the health of my children. Obviously, I pray over my children. But what I did say was that I take responsibility for my health and the health of my kids. I don't put that responsibility off onto people I do not know who have been trained in a field that belongs to men who stand to make billions of dollars off my ignorance.

If you could actually shadow me as you say, you would learn a lot about healing your conditions. I am always happy to point people who want to learn to great places to do so.
Like when I did my own research and did not go on drugs for my hypothyroidism 11 yrs ago and now have been healed of it, quite easily, for 10 yrs now. Had I gone the doctors route, I would by now probably have changed over to hyperthyroidism and then probably had my thyroid destroyed by radiation as did many people I know. How about the fact that I no longer wear glasses and reversed my need for them in my 40's?
Or like my friend who when told her gallbladder must come out, researched it for herself, did a special cleanse for 2 weeks and now has a healed and healthy gallbladder instead of a scar and the problems that come with its removal years down the road.
I also know quite a few people who have been healed of cancer and of diabetes through nutrition. I can't even begin to tell you all the people I know that got healed without a doctor. And I didn't say that they prayed themselves well (although I do know people who have done that as well and would never negate healing from the Lord. :-X) I am speaking of healing through finding out the cause of the problem and using God's healing nutrients to fix it rather than use a drug to treat the symptoms and then deal with the damage to your other organs from the drug.

Medical schools don't teach doctors to treat people's causes. Pick up a medical journal, take out all the ads for drugs and see what is left. (A pamphlet :o) I also know a doctor who lost his medical license because he refused to drug all his patients. He continued his practice however and helped a lot of people by doing the right thing. Drugs should always be a last resort.

Why do you put so much faith in the science of medicine and no faith in the science of nutrition and all those who study that? Just because you haven't researched it doesn't make it something you should mock or call me "bewildered" over. I haven't called you names for putting your faith in doctors. I am just thankful I have found a better way and wish everyone were so blessed.

So had you read my post more closely, you would have seen that I also thought what these parents did was terrible. They had a sick child and needed to find out what was wrong with her. But I wouldn't want to be the parents of the 16 yr old young man who was taken away from his parents for curing his cancer on his own and was being threatened by the state with forced chemotherapy when he didn't want it or need it. I don't think we need big brother determining what is best for our kids. Kids must be protected but it is a fine and dangerous line.

As Christ Followers, we need to wake up and realize that all we hear on TV and in the media is controlled by the people with the most money and power. Taking care of yourself is preventive medicine. I have the God given right to raise my children the way I have been led to do. You say God hasn't led you away from the doctors? Well, He did lead me away. As I said, I came out of many world systems before He led me out of Babylon.
It made coming out of the church so much easier for us. We have been seeing His truth for a LONG time.

Paula, as for my babies births. Glad you asked. By the way, it is Linny, and I am the wife.  ;)
I had my first daughter in the hospital and because I was ignorant then about childbirth, I let the doctor (in a hurry to go home on Sunday) give me an unnecessary C-section. Very sad for me and for her. I did my research and when number 2 came along we used a midwife. I got wonderful care, took the best supplements (whole food, cold-processed) and she was breech just like her mommy. Because of my previous C-section, my midwife wouldn't deliver her at home so we ended up back in the hospital very unfortunately. It wasn't my desire but God was so good to me. The doctor on call had a midwife for a wife and the nurses were all supportive of my attempted homebirth much to the dismay of my midwife. My second child who never saw a doctor before her birth, is even healthier than my first.
So, yes, I do advocate homebirth. Midwives don't treat pregnancy as a disease.

Be blessed!
Lin

phazel:

--- Quote from: Linny on March 31, 2008, 02:25:01 PM ---. How about the fact that I no longer wear glasses and reversed my need for them in my 40's?



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I'd like to know more about this, I have had glasses since I was 6 years old.

Beloved:
Hi Linny

Nothing in your post offended me and I am a doctor ( yes one of those an M.D.) . We are not all bad but just like thechurch, tremedous corruption has occurred within thi field. It runs gamut from the top to the bottom. Money and Pride and Fear are the driving forces. I too am getting off that train but I expect to hit many obstacles. 

I would say that I agree with most of your opinions but for perhays different reasons. I may go into these later on but I have to get back to work

Using the information that God has given man is not wrong, Prayer is coming into agreement with what Gods want and forgoing what you want. God will use whatever means to accomplish what He want.
 
beloved

Beloved:
In relation to illness each person needs to be aware of who they are trusting. Like the church , today's medical system still likes to treat the patient as "the stupid laymen". The insurance companies and the cost of services also dictate who and what will be done. The poor get a a much lower quality of medical treatment. Many cannot affort "the best" even with insurance.

Here is one negaive aspect of medications. More than 2 million Americans become seriously ill every year because of toxic reactions to correctly prescribed medicines taken properly, and 106.000 die from those reactions, a new study concludes. That surprisingly high number makes drug side effects at least the sixth, and perhaps even the fourth, most common cause of death in this country.

The analysis, the largest and most complete of its kind, suggests that one in 15 hospital patients in the United States can expect a serious reaction to prescription or over-the-counter medicine. and about 5 percent of these will die from it.

If the findings are accurate, then the number of people dying each year from drug side effects may be exceeded only by the numbers of people dying from heart disease cancer and stroke. and may be greater than the number dying from lung disease, pneumonia or diabetes.

Experts said the study, which appears in today's issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association, is stronger than previous ones because it looks only at cases in which drugs were taken correctly. Previous hints of similarly high side effect rates had been attributed in large part to people getting the wrong medicines or taking them in the wrong doses.

Only one quarter of the reactions were due to patients being allergic to the drug in question. In theory, those reactions could be avoided by more carefully asking patients about known allergies. The rest of the side effects were classified as essentially inevitable, bound to affect a certain percentage of the population for unknown reasons.

There are a lot of theoretical causes for  Type I or Juvenile diabetes, a viral infection effecting the Pancrease.  I even have read that in Utero Vitamin A defiiciency predisposes them to getting it. Like I said there are several ways this could occur.

Whatever the cause it is treatable today because we have insulin, In the past juvenile diabetics did not live long and few reproduced unless they had very poor low calorie diets.

The Medical field has focused it study but it is now in bed with a lot of financial interests : pharaceurical, medical equipment, insurance and even the government. Yes this child may have been helped if seen and treated. The parents were foolish not to have utilized the things that God has provided. God provided men with minds and the abilty to solve some of earth's challenges.

On the other hand prayer is needed ....ALWAYS....not for the cure, not for the treatment, not for the people involved but ......for this incidence/illness to be for the Glory of God.

If this couple stood before the judgement seat today ...they would not be shamed for their steadfast praying...they would cry bitterly because they followed the false doctrines of a corrupt church.

All of us have horror stories about going to the doctor/hospital and the reverse side has similiar tales.. Both sides of the isle could entertain us for a long time.

Keep in mind........Even this event was in God's Will.....  even when we do not understand it.


beloved

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