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Modern day Molech worship by USA elected officials.
hillsbororiver:
Hi Kent,
What you said about Mr. Pearson still learning is a very valid point and it is true of all of us. The thing that struck me about his site though was the aggressive marketing of a book for sale. This book is what he deems to be the God given revelation about Universal Salvation. How much did God charge Mr. Pearson? As you stated Mr. Pearson "paid a price" but what about the price he charges for the truth about hell and salvation?
Mat 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
Joh 2:16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house a house of merchandise.
1Co 2:12 Now1161 we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
Here is a quote from Mr. Pearson in regard to the life of Christ (in defense of The DaVinci Code);
While I do not necessarily believe that Jesus was married, it would not be totally unreasonable to assume that the man who said: "...whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart," may have had human attractions, as do other men, to a beautiful young woman attending
to Him in the manner scripture suggests Mary Magdalene and other women did. He was, after all, a young single man.
Scripture also says in reference to Jesus, "....we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.” If in fact He was tempted as we are, then one of the only ways He could be so without sin, would be to marry.
If Ray were to write things such as this with no scriptural authority and sell his teachings rather than "give freely" I am quite sure Kat, myself and others might have some serious issues with him as well.
His Peace to you,
Joe
Kat:
Hi Kent,
I understand your concern and sensitivity, but I am also concerned with what a visitor may see. Ray has stated a number of times he has not found any others teaching the Truth, without heresy. I think people need to be aware of this, because it is easy to get tangled up in some of the teachings that are out there. Now I do believe that there most likely others with the Truth, but we do not know of any, including those you mentions, which links were not allowed.
Here are emails where Ray mentions this.
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2335.0.html -----
No, I don't, Barry. There is the same problem for believers worldwide. Too many churches not enough truth. There are no institutionalized denominations or churches that teach the truth of the Scriptures. I know of none. There may be small scattered (salt) groups that teach the truth, but I am not in contact with any of them. You can if you wish join our Discussion Forum at the bottom of our home page. We have many readers from South Africa. Perhaps you can find others who believe in your area.
God be with you,
Ray
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,835.0.html ----
People ask me about hundreds and hundreds of people, pastors, authors, web sites, etc. What does it matter what I think? Of the tens of thousands of emails that I have received, and wherein I was introduced to hundreds of pastors and web sites, I have found not one that I believe teaches any of the major doctrines correctly. And that includes Pastor Murray. I have never said that there are not those who teach the truth, but so far no one has showed me anyone.
God be with you,
Ray
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1536.0.html -----
I do not recommend any other sites. There are dozens of sites with the name: "Christian-Universalism." I am not sure if you had one of them in particular in mind.
As per your statement that your not wanting to read material that is "a reaction to mainline Christianity," I can only say that most of Christ's teaching was in reaction to mainline Judaism. How many times to we read of "You have heard...but I SAY UNTO YOU.....?" and many such statements with regards to what was WRONG with the religion of Judea.
The reason that I do not recommend other sites (even Universalism sites), is because I have so far found it to be true that every site I have ever visited that has some truth, also has some damnable heresies. I don't claim that I am 100% accurate in every word I teach--not by a long shot, but.....BUT, I don't believe that I teach ANY "damnable heresies."
God be with you,
Ray
p.s. I found this and wanted to add it.
The Concordant Literal New Testament (and Old Testament, however at present I do not believe it is found in one volume but soon will be). You can find this Bible by entering "Concordant Literal New Testament, or Concordant Publishing Concern in Google or any search engine.. I highly DO NOT recommend the teachings of the Concordant Publishing Concern, however. http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4426.0.html
mercy, peace and love
Kat
gmik:
Thanks Kat for those e mails.
A couple years ago, after reading Ray's site, I did go to many UR sights. I was excited to think that LOTS of people believe what I just learned. But after reading alot you ususally get deeper in and then BAM there it was...something scripturally unfounded.
As for Pearson, he lost me when he said Hitler was up in heaven now hanging out w/ Jesus. Also, he is still into the money thing, big time. You could attend his last conference for $300. Really. I was on his mailing list and I got all the info!
Hmmmm....last time I checked Ray still isn't charging $ for anything!!!
Kent:
Good points, one and all. I never said that he was right in all of his teachings, because I dont know all of what he says; but he was right about the 'eternal hell' teachings. If he still has errors, that does not surprise me at all. If Paul didn't know everything, I really doubt if anyone else knows everything.
It is up to God to point out those errors to him, just like He did to me and anyone else. And if He chooses not to? Just that 1 truth changes lives. If I learned nothing else, I wouldn't be mad at God, but I do want to learn more and I have learned more.
PS
I too dont like the idea of selling info at conferences or selling books. Freely receive, freely give, for the scriptural reasons you gave. That is a red flag, imo. But if God pulled him out of the churchianity mess he was in, He can pull him out of this too.
winner08:
I believe that they have a few rich and powerfull leaders who run this country. Wether or not they belong to an organization or not. There's nothing I can do about it. God's giving the power to these leaders to run this country. HIS plan will be done. America WILL suffer God's wrath. These leaders are running this country into the ground and there will be hell to pay. This is all according to God's will, and plan. At the end, these so called leaders will pay dearly for their sins.
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