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Stevernator:
Hi Lorrie,
Welcome to the forum! Please continue reading; there is so much to learn here! After learning all of the things on this site many of us try to share all of this knowledge with friends and family. This is good but unless God is leading them then there is a good chance that they won't understand which is ok. The more I learn the more excited I get so this site really is a blessing.
Peace,
Steve

gmik:
Welcome Lorrie.  That freedom you get when you let go of all those years of christendom is wonderful!!  Glad you have joined us.

lorrie:
Thank you all for the warm welcome!And  Patrick the reason i leave the o out is because  i  noticed the jews do that, when writing his name, it is out of respect and reverance.I also want to say that i have been asking for years for  our Father to put me in contact with the remnant.Now he has answered my prayer.
Lorrie

hillsbororiver:
Hi lorrie,

First off I want to welcome you to the Forum, I look forward to fellowship with you.

Also I wanted to share with you more of the freedom that is Christ our Lord, His Kingdom is spiritual as is our worship of Him, He judges what is in our hearts not respecting key words or physical observances. Here is an email to Ray that touches on this as well as some verses from Paul which underlines the spiritual rather than physical rituals.

http://bible-truths.com/email4.htm#pronounce

Ever since I began looking for the truth, I had wondered about the Consistency of Various Words, Names and Locations through out Bible. Thanks to your site (which is the first I ran into) I found out that it's bad (or deceitful) scholarship to translate Aion as eternity, and to use various words (such as spirit and soul) interchangeably.

But now with those out of the way, I come an issue (of sorts).

I have, through a search, found a couple of Webster's most proper names for most (not all) Bible Prophets, Apostles and The name for Jesus and God (who is sometimes called Jehovah).

Should I now (seeing that I have a good Idea of what God and Jesus' name is) continue to use these translated words? or Should I use the Hebrew Name?

While were on the topic of consistency, How Does Rotherham and Concordant Render their Names?

To make a rather long story short, is it okay that I use these "translated" Names in Prayer? or should I use the Names of The Hebrew and Greek.

I don't mean to sound sarcastic, rude, impolite and such is not intended.

Ps: yes I understand the response of your last letter dealing with Faith and how it's impossible to permanently lose grace.

[Ray Replies]

Jeff it is good to know the MEANING of Greek and Hebrew names, but when it comes to how one pronounces them, that is sheer folly. I have groups virtually make a NEW RELIGION out of how we pronounce and spell the names and titles of Jesus and His Father.

Translating "aions" into English "eternities" COMPLETELY changes the meaning of the original word. Calling Jesus by His Greek, Latin, or whatever, as opposed to how His name is pronounced in Hebrew proves NOTHING. And certainly is NOT a sign of spirituality. Besides most of the population of the world who is familiar with the KJV wouldn't even know who you are talking about. Paul became ALL things to ALL people that he might gain some.

We can even call God the Father "Pappa" if we want to, so give me a break!

Jeff, don't ever let people make you feel spiritually inferior to themselves through the use of supposed higher knowledge. If they are shaming you, then SAME ON THEM!

God be with you.

Sincerely,

Ray



Rom 2:28  For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
 
Rom 2:29  But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Rom 3:1  What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?

Gal 2:14  But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
 
His Peace and Wisdom to you,

Joe

KristaD:
Welcome ;D!
I thought that the Jew left out vowels b/c there aren't vowels in hebrew ???

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