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winner08:
A friend and I are always discussing Mr. Rays teachings. I tell her what I learned and she comments on it. For example, I was telling her that we aren't saved until the very end , when after were judged and sentence and are purified with the fire of God, and turn from physical to spirit. Then we are made into the likeness of God Himself. Now we are saved. No she says. She said All you have to do is call on and believe that Christ died for our sins and we are saved. Then she said millions believe this. Then I said just because the many believe in something doesn't mean it's true.I gave the example of the 12 disciples. They were only a few who knew the truth in the beginning. The majority didn't believe. I told her all of the greatest people on earth were of the minority not the majority. So when anyone tells you that, that is what most people believe, don't believe it.

                                         God bless you and yours

                                            Darren

Craig:
Darren,

You are just spinning your wheels.  You can argue until the second coming and you won't change her mind.  What I normally do in a case as this is I give them the link to bible truths or print out some of the articles and leave it at that.  Perhaps God will put it in her heart to actually separate scripture from doctrine.  Only then will the onion peel open.

Most all of us on this forum do not have a firm enough grasp on the truth to be a good verbal witness or teacher anyway.  But we can all be a strong witness by the way we live our lives.

Craig

hillsbororiver:
Hi Darren,

In Christ's own words;

Mat 22:14  For many are called, but few are chosen.

Joh 6:44  No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Joh 6:65  And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

Joh 15:16  Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Peace,

Joe

KristaD:
Well, it sounds like you told her all that you could. I've been there too with people, frustrating isn't it? Speak when He tells you to, and stop when He tells you you're finished. He has a reason when He has us speak the truth to them and He has just as much reason when He keeps us quiet. It's hardest for me when He tells me not to talk, lol, but I know He has it all worked out and at the appointed time He'll open their eyes. God bless you and guide you.

gmik:
Hi.  Good posts!

Usually, in my circle, no one ever asks a thing!!!!  I have been putting "key" scriptures in my signature on my e mails, and no one has yet to comment.  They are comfortable in their beliefs, and think I have jumped off the edge.  They really don't want to separate scripture from doctrine bcz bottom line is they believe in their doctrine/pastor/cbn more!

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