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Worlds most prominant atheist stumped.
kweli:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on April 14, 2008, 06:31:38 PM ---Luk 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
Luk 9:56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.
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Someone I know likes to say "The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing". So I suppose if we keep the main thing the main thing we wont get tangled into this whole facts vs fairy tale tale
UncleBeau:
When I think of athiests arguing with christians, I think of the world as a painting and God is the painter. God is teaching us to paint, but some believe that the painting got there itself through pure chance, whilst arguing with those that can only fingerpaint with ketchup.
David:
After reading his book and seeing many of his lectures and interviews, I find Dawkins to be guilty of the very thing he seems to abhore in certain religious people, he's irrational and borders on the fanatical. His objections to religion and scripture are spurious. He's a brilliant man, no doubt about it, but he often catches himself out with his own arguments. His intellectual vanity is easily stroked when debating most people defending Christianity and the scriptures, because they don't understand their own faith and religion.
I don't think the problem is with the understanding of science or evolution, its all down to the understanding of God on both sides of the debate. Both sides of the debate have God as a white haired old man sitting on a cosmic cloud surrounded by legions of winged angels with lightening bolts coming from His fingers, and a God that just waved his hand and the universe and everything in it just appeared in 6 24 hour days.
He also has this stupid notion that the world is full of Christians, Muslims and Jews that want to reject science completely, reject progress and return to the dark ages. There may be some nut jobs in the world that would support such a crazy idea, but thankfully they are few enough to be completely ignored.
musicman:
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And as far as evolution, I think it's a big mistake to keep it's teaching away from children. How are people going to defend their faith when they really don't understand evolution? They can call me ignorant if they like. But I can at least tell people what problems I see in the hypothesis of evolution. Afterall, I know what evolution is. I also realize that the cosmic origins have nothing to do with the hypothesis of evolution. Many of the evolution believers don't realize this.
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The problem is that in schools they do not teach evolution as a theory they teach it as if it is fact.
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I'm sorry, but evolution should not be considered a theory. A scientific theory is a hypothesis with well supported scientific evidence. There is so much evidence against evolution that it should have been reduced back to a hypothesis a long time ago (at least in the last 20 years). The best way to argue the position of creation is to call evolution a hypothesis and not a theory. Then tell them why.
Again, we should not be afraid to learn what evolutionists are fully claiming. If they want to call it a fact, let them. I've talked to enough Christians who don't have a clue of what evolution implies. They just know that they hate it. They don't even know the difference between micro and macro evolution. I say let kids learn as much as they can about it so that they will know what they are dismissing later.
mrl1970:
My mistake musicman I should have called it a hypothesis. I had a history teacher who was a liberal admitted he was a liberal yet gave equal political arguments to different sides of history. He lets us use facts to form our own opinion.
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