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Beloved:
Hello Morten
I think Craig hit the nail on the head but here is a good email where Ray addresses this
Hi Ray,
I will keep this very simply and short. Does GOD have a plan and destiny (specific) to each person? If so, how do you fnd or fulfill that specific plan?
Or is GOD's plan general to all but not specific to each person. Example: HE wants us all to know HIM, Love HIM. etc. Or is there some specific plan for each person. (Example: HE wants you to be a computer programmer).
I ofter read Jer 29:11-13 and wonder about a specific plan.
Thank you.
Julie
Dear Julie: We are all far from understanding Who and What God really is, but there are at least a few things we can know for SURE about Him, and whatever we know for sure, if it is true, it will always be true seeing that God does not change.
Now then, I have taught most of the last 40 years of my life in vain according to the perceived results of my teaching. Here are a couple of Truths regarding God that ALL Christians agree are true and that they believe, but just about everything else in their life, philosophy, theology, etc.,contradicts totally these basic truths.
[1] God is SOVEREIGN
[2] God is LOVE
[3] God is ALL-KNOWING
[4] God has a MASTER PLAN
Now then, what are the implications of those truths? We need to meditate and think about these because most do NOT base their lives and their beliefs upon these truths.
We all want to know exactly what it is that God wants of us, how we should live, where, with whom, doing what work, for what end or purpose, etc. Few of us are ever content to realize that we are right at this very moment EXACTLY where we are suppose to be, doing exactly what God has had foreknowledge of us doing from before the foundation of the world. Your entire PAST consisted of exactly what was determined you would go through up until this moment. But what about tomorrow? We all want to know what will be in our lives TOMORROW? Unfortunately, this is not for us to know: "Whereas ye know NOT what shall be on the morrow" (James 4:14).
Not even James the great Apostle knew what each day would bring in his life. Did the other Apostles all know what God had planned for their lives?
(CLV) Verily, verily, I am saying to you, When you were younger you girded yourself and walked where you would; yet whenever you may be growing decrepit, you will stretch out your hands, and another shall be girding you and carrying you WHERE YOU WOULD NOT" (John 21:18).
God does not tell us exactly what He has planned for our lives. Yes, Jeremiah declared that the time would come that His people would cry out to God with all their heart and God would hear them, but even then, it is up to God, not you, to know when He will put it into your heart to cry out to Him, and up to Him as to how He will rescue you and save you. I know that this is not the kind of thing that people want to hear, but it is the Scriptural truth.
You can go to the Churches of this world, and they will tell you that you need to dream your dreams and if they are good ones, God will honor your every wish and cause you to be totally successful in whatever job, career, or endeavor you set your heart on. And some even foolishly believe that they have caused their own dreams to come true.
If God gives you the desire to please Him, then God will not deceive or forsake you, and you will be the success that God desires you to be. But.....BUT, there is no guarantee that He will ever tell you what that will be, specifically.
Ray
Wow this is heavy duty answer…everyday I have the desire to please Him but I always feel like I am failing. I have no idea what I am doing or suppose to do, I feel like I am wandering around with no directions. I do not know what to do with the information that God has given me.
God is in total control in my life and I will rest in that
Beloved .
Kat:
Hi Morten,
I'm glad you have joined us :)
You are still young and of course you are going to have to hold a job and provide for yourself. getting more schooling is a good idea too. But just like you have to make time each day to nourish yourself with physical food, you need to make time for your spiritual nourishment each day also.
Since you do not share the same mind as your small group anymore, then I can understand your wanting to stop meeting with them. When I was ask why I stopped attending church I simply said I do not agree with what they teach. Only one person ask me what I didn't agree on, so I mentioned that I do not believe there was an eternal hell. There was a short exchange, she was not interested in my explanation. Most people just seem so surprised that they don't even ask why. If you think a person is sincerely searching for truth, you may want to dicuss it. But if their eyes have not been opened, nothing you say can help them see. So you will have to determine how much you want to discuss this. If you are not well versed in what is taught here, you may want to direct them to Bible-truth.com.
But you can come here for fellowship as you ajust as it is nice to have all these people here to discuss things with.
Here are a few links to stuff we have here you might like to view.
Forum idexes and info.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,14.0.html
Ray audios
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,2641.0.html
Transcripts to audios
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,12.0.html
mecry, peace and love
Kat
kweli:
--- Quote from: Craig on April 15, 2008, 04:38:56 PM ---You live your life. You be an example for those around you.
You be the message don't give a message.
Craig
--- End quote ---
A true militant reformer
[Of course I've got a huge log in my eye ;)]
Morten:
Hey
Thank you for your kind words.
Craig, that was a reall good explanation. Well Beloved to though, heh okay evryone had a good explanation ( hehe).
Man i just litterly smile now. I have never in my life felt so much love from so many people at the same time. Just so you know, all of you have a really loving heart.
And Kat, about saying it to people, it is little bit diffrent here. If you say somthing, and it is somthing else then what the other person belive, you need to explain it.
Almost noone just say okay. Like my family it is, really hard to explain things (they go to the church as i did before, they got little bit suprised when i changed my wiew). They ask so much, that i have to give them the bibletruth page ( well they always new about it, but have never been reading about it), and i say you need to read it, beacuse i cant explain evrything so you can understand. But they just wanne now, beacuse they love me, and are afraid iam going to do somthing wrong, beacuse they feel that iam kind of alone, and will stay at my room, and just read the bible, then nothing else. But i really love them.
But as you see our cultures, are diffrent.
I was looking through the bible and i got this bible verse. Rom14:22. And 15 1-2. I dont have a good english bible, so you need to read it by your self, srry.
I think that spoked right to me.
Well thank you again for your answers.
Kat:
Hi Morten,
Maybe the reason people don't question me so much is I'm a lot older than you. I guess they figure it I'm so mixed up at my age, there is no hope for me then ;)
But I can see your family's concern. They are fearful of something that they don't understand. What may help is to get a real firm understanding of the major beliefs you now have and the Scriptures that they stand on. If you can prove what you believe is Scriptural, how can they find fault.
Ray has a Bible study that is just about this subject called 'Foundational Truths.'
Here is an excerpt and a link to the study.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6452.0.html ----
So I want to give you enough information so that, on a rather simplistic level, you can take on any and all comers, TV preachers or people, you know. Because a lot of us run into people who will argue about Scripture and say, ‘yes God is going to torture people, because it says so.’
Is there a way to learn how to overcome virtually all of these hundreds of Scriptures that they throw at you? I think there is. That’s what today’s study is all about.
So many of the doctrines of the church, they contradict each other, they contradict God, they contradict the Scriptures.
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Link to the audio
http://bible-truths.com/audio/Bible Study 02-03-08.mp3
Hope this helps.
mercy, peace and love
Kay
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