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Jesus cleanses the Temple
hdjohn:
Hello,
I have really enjoyed this site so far, along with Rays website and now I'm enjoying his audios on his forum wich is helping me understand a truth I've been seeking 13 years now!! My topic or question if you will; is the scriptual insite on the gospel of Luke, chapter 19:45, Luke writes towards the end of the Masters ministry he cleanses the temple, Then I read in the book of John, chapter 2:16, John writes, in the beginning of HIS ministry he gets very upset finding money changers in HIS FATHERS House. I was asking for some of your veiws on this matter. Was this an acurate account of both times or where the Gospel writers making the same point in there message not to be taken literaly as Jesus Himself often spoke? What do you think?
Thank-you, JOHN ><> 3:16
Martinez:
Hi hdjohn.
John 2:16 ties in with Revelation
Joh 2:16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.
Joh 2:17 And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name
The Christian church today is busy buying and selling there own doctrines (pearls), righteousness (fine linen) and good works (gold and silver) that they have no time to sell everything they have to buy the genuine articles from their Christ.
Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
It is impossible to please God with our own good works because they are as filthy rags to God.
What the Christian church thinks is a covering of fine linen is nothing more than the linen used to wrap the bodies of the dead. that is why they are filthy rags because they are unclean to touch and when We offer them to God he will not accept them.
hdjohn:
thank-you Martinez,
indianabob:
Good Morning John from Readyville, TN
Welcome to the forum and praise for your 13 year journey seeking truth.
We all are seeking a better understanding and the full truth of God's plan for His children.
I'm sure that you will learn much to expand your thinking here on the forum and we
look forward to learning more about you, so please share a little more of your history
and the challenges you may have had on your journey of faith.
Indiana Bob
DOB 1935
Culver, IN
hdjohn:
Thanks, Indinana Bob!!
My intrest of God started 13 years ago in a smoke filled A.A. clubhouse in TN., I was in a lot of trouble, hearing voices,facing divorce, drug dealer of 15 years, who had just got off the phone trying to reach the president of the U.S. to wish him a merry christmas!!! If I remember correctly I got as far as the oval office's secretary!!!! not a very smart thing for a man to do who sells marijauna for a living.
waking up the following morning shaking and scared; notice the phone co. outside working on the telephone pole!!! Oops.......could it be the C.I.A.!!!!! LOL!!!!!
I vagely remember an A.A. guy sitting me down and drawing me a picture of a circle and putting a dot in the center of the circle. Told me that dot was me! Put a bunch of other dots on the outsde of the circle and told me those dots represented other people, and everywhere I looked from inside that circle, all I could see was other people. He called that "self-centeredness"
He then softly and calmly proceded to tell me what A.A. was going to try to do............He drawed another circle, this time putting a throne in the middle of the circle, He put a "G" on that throne, and told me that G represented my idea of GOD, said they where going to try to take me out of the center of that circle and put me back out there with the rest of the people.
That is why I think the temple cleansing is so important to me!!
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